Your Top 5

[jspchief]

Setting aside specific players, BPA philosophy, etc. what are the 5 positions that would most like to see addressed by the Chiefs in this draft?

[cockeyes]

They paid a hefty sum for Alex Smith. They aren't going to draft a QB high and cause an immediate QB controversy.

From the looks of things we could get one of these guys on day 2, where they belong, and he could watch for a while. That would be nice.

[Messier]

Let me put it this way. I honestly feel there's not a team in the league that would take a QB 1.1 this year.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Messier

Let me put it this way. I honestly feel there's not a team in the league that would take a QB 1.1 this year.

How many would take one at 1.10?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen

HemiEd, you do realize that you said, "My point was that I always have admired how the Hunt's stayed in the background and let their GMs run the team," then loudly complained that the Hunts control their GM's.

That was your point. Hunts don't interfere, except for when they interfere.

So, yes, I was trying to be funny. I was mocking your point that the Hunts don't interfere and do interfere.

Actually, it is not one point to the other, they are both true.

They, the Hunts didn't interfere, or become the focal point of the team, like the extreme examples I gave of Jones and Snyder. This is what I really liked about their leadership style.

But it is glaringly obvious that they have interfered on this issue for a very long time. I would rather have to deal with the other extreme, that at least has a chance of winning.

Not really that difficult to follow.

[Thig Lyfe]

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[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by cockeyes

They paid a hefty sum for Alex Smith. They aren't going to draft a QB high and cause an immediate QB controversy.

From the looks of things we could get one of these guys on day 2, where they belong, and he could watch for a while. That would be nice.

They paid the same price for Smith in the trade that they did for Cassel, they just haven't signed him to a long term contract YET.

That 2nd day QB drafting has worked out so well for this team in the past /Croyle, Stanzi, Barnes, Stenstrom, Mathews, Blundin, Elkins, McManus, Hudson, Fuller, Woods, Jaynes



If you don't learn by your mistakes, you are destined to repeat them.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

How many would take one at 1.10?

I don't know. That's around where some of the guards are going to start going too. Would you take a guard 1.1?

[Dr. Van Halen]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Actually, it is not one point to the other, they are both true.

They, the Hunts didn't interfere, or become the focal point of the team, like the extreme examples I gave of Jones and Snyder. This is what I really liked about their leadership style.

But it is glaringly obvious that they have interfered on this issue for a very long time. I would rather have to deal with the other extreme, that at least has a chance of winning.

Not really that difficult to follow.

So you think it is worth it to have ownership that only interferes when it comes to quarterback selection. I agree.

I do think, however, that not selecting a quarterback in the modern era was more a product of Carl Peterson than the Hunts. I could very easily see his egomania causing him to actually be afraid of missing on a quarterback.

And Scott Pioli was an idiot. That's why he didn't draft a quarterback. He was an idiot.

[Dr. Van Halen]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

They paid the same price for Smith in the trade that they did for Cassel, they just haven't signed him to a long term contract YET.

That 2nd day QB drafting has worked out so well for this team in the past /Croyle, Stanzi, Barnes, Stenstrom, Mathews, Blundin, Elkins, McManus, Hudson, Fuller, Woods, Jaynes



If you don't learn by your mistakes, you are destined to repeat them.

Again, those quarterbacks are from a different regime. You continue to mistake the GM's for the team. Those failures will have nothing to do with what our current GM/coach decide to do.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Messier

I don't know. That's around where some of the guards are going to start going too. Would you take a guard 1.1?

I wouldn't take a guard at 1.10.

The difference between 1.1 and 1.10 is less than the yearly salary our punter is making.

What has the best LT in football gotten the Browns? What did Jake Long get the Dolphins? How many games did the Chiefs win b/c of Will Shields, or the Jets in Faneca's prime?

What does Geno Smith hitting get the Chiefs? In contention for the SB every year. What does Geno Smith missing get the Chiefs? No worse off than they are right now.

What are the financial implications of the Chiefs whiffing on Geno Smith? Minimal. What effect does Geno Smith missing have on the Chiefs ability to build a competitive core? The same that the current version of Alex Smith does--one that's not good enough.

What QB has the best chance of hitting in this draft? Geno Smith.

So, I say again, what's the downside of taking a QB in this situation if you are the Chiefs, Jags, Eagles, Raiders, Browns, Cardinals, Bills, Jets, and several others? Are you going to be unable to not win the Super Bowl the same way you didn't win it last year?

Given the structure of the NFL's TV contracts these teams have little-to-nothing to lose by making these moves. The team isn't going to go under. It will still turn a tremendous profit. And it might turn you into a consistent competitor.

Of course, if the QB misses, the GM will most likely lose his job, and that is why most of the teams will pass on one, because the GM values his job security over the purpose of his job.

[Dr. Van Halen]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What QB has the best chance of hitting in this draft? Geno Smith.

I think the fact that teams have been desperate to get free agent QB's this year (even now they are trying to get Mallett) instead of moving up to make sure they can get Geno Smith tells us that Geno Smith isn't that great.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen

Again, those quarterbacks are from a different regime. You continue to mistake the GM's for the team. Those failures will have nothing to do with what our current GM/coach decide to do.

You just really don't understand, I get that. You are of the opinion that the GMs all independently arrived at the same decision. That is where we don't agree.

Oh, and I have no problem telling you who the GMs of this team have been for the last 44 years.
Jack Steadman was the last GM to draft a QB for the Chiefs in the first round, and that turned out to be such a horrible pick, the TEAM owned by the HUNTS has not picked one since.

[Dr. Van Halen]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

You just really don't understand, I get that. You are of the opinion that the GMs all independently arrived at the same decision. That is where we don't agree.

Oh, and I have no problem telling you who the GMs of this team have been for the last 44 years.
Jack Steadman was the last GM to draft a QB for the Chiefs in the first round, and that turned out to be such a horrible pick, the TEAM owned by the HUNTS has not picked one since.

I do understand, HemiEd. We just don't agree. There is a difference.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I wouldn't take a guard at 1.10.

The difference between 1.1 and 1.10 is less than the yearly salary our punter is making.

What has the best LT in football gotten the Browns? What did Jake Long get the Dolphins? How many games did the Chiefs win b/c of Will Shields, or the Jets in Faneca's prime?

What does Geno Smith hitting get the Chiefs? In contention for the SB every year. What does Geno Smith missing get the Chiefs? No worse off than they are right now.

What are the financial implications of the Chiefs whiffing on Geno Smith? Minimal. What effect does Geno Smith missing have on the Chiefs ability to build a competitive core? The same that the current version of Alex Smith does--one that's not good enough.

What QB has the best chance of hitting in this draft? Geno Smith.

So, I say again, what's the downside of taking a QB in this situation if you are the Chiefs, Jags, Eagles, Raiders, Browns, Cardinals, Bills, Jets, and several others? Are you going to be unable to not win the Super Bowl the same way you didn't win it last year?

Given the structure of the NFL's TV contracts these teams have little-to-nothing to lose by making these moves. The team isn't going to go under. It will still turn a tremendous profit. And it might turn you into a consistent competitor.

Of course, if the QB misses, the GM will most likely lose his job, and that is why most of the teams will pass on one, because the GM values his job security over the purpose of his job.

Holy SHIT.

This is the most forceful truth bomb dropped this offseason.

[Dr. Van Halen]

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

Holy SHIT.

This is the most forceful truth bomb dropped this offseason.

The fear of failure argument would make more sense if EVERYONE wasn't saying Geno Smith is not so great. If people really believed Geno Smith was going to be a franchise quarterback, he would be the top pick both in the draft and in the professional mock drafts.

Almost every team who needed a quarterback this offseason has decided that the available free agents are better than Geno Smith will likely turn out to be.