Official discussion thread on Andy’s late game conservative play calling

[SupDock]

All of these things can be true, and perhaps last night wasn't on Andy, but the point still stands that he needs to look a little closer at closing out games

We also need to give Mahomes more time

Last night the altitude and state of the field was playing a huge role. Players were gassed. On the last drive players were struggling to get on the defensive side of the ball before the snap

[Beef Supreme]

We need to draft some fatties.

[KCUnited]

The entire offense looked shaky, especially in the 4th. I feel it's a combo of execution and mindset. Those last drives, it was like the coaches and players lost all confidence in the oline to be able to get the ball down the field so they just turtled up and held on.

[FloridaMan88]

A third string RB, Darrel Williams was basically the Chiefs' featured player on offense... running and on screen plays on 6 of the 9 downs during those last two drives (before the kneel down drive).

Darrel Williams played well last night, but an offense featuring Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, etc and of course the MVP at QB can't find a more creative/aggressive way to get yardage AND keep the clock moving in that situation?

[notorious]

It’s happened for 20 ****ing years with multiple QBs. Stop citing last night to defend Reid.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by notorious

It’s happened for 20 ****ing years with multiple QBs. Stop citing last night to defend Reid.

Are we really going to pretend Andy hasn't won way more games than he lost though? You guys act like he is Freddie Kitchens or something.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Are we really going to pretend Andy hasn't won way more games than he lost though?

Not in the postseason.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Are we really going to pretend Andy hasn't won way more games than he lost though? You guys act like he is Freddie Kitchens or something.

I love Andy. Said it a million times. He has the ability to put clown shoes on the best.

It doesn’t cover his horrific warts. There is a reason he hasn’t won a title and history agrees he won’t with the Chiefs.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Are we really going to pretend Andy hasn't won way more games than he lost though? You guys act like he is Freddie Kitchens or something.

My biggest issue with it is that it relies on our weakness (defense) rather than our strength (offense). Yes, you could argue that the field conditions played a role last night, and the OL certainly wasn't giving Patrick much time to work. But still - we're up by 15 in the 3rd quarter and we're already going into a shell. That seems...extreme. And he does it frequently.

[old_geezer]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My biggest issue with it is that it relies on our weakness (defense) rather than our strength (offense). Yes, you could argue that the field conditions played a role last night, and the OL certainly wasn't giving Patrick much time to work. But still - we're up by 15 in the 3rd quarter and we're already going into a shell. That seems...extreme. And he does it frequently.

This is pretty much me. I lost track of the times I thought (or blurted out loud) to myself last night during the 4th quarter; "Damn, the offense is playing scared. Attack, dammit, attack!".

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My biggest issue with it is that it relies on our weakness (defense) rather than our strength (offense). Yes, you could argue that the field conditions played a role last night, and the OL certainly wasn't giving Patrick much time to work. But still - we're up by 15 in the 3rd quarter and we're already going into a shell. That seems...extreme. And he does it frequently.

Zeggactly, We usually lose these type of games. Yes we won last night so maybe our defense is coming together but I certainly wouldn't count on it. We NEVER seem to be able to put teams away. I'll give people the officials trying to keep it close as that's a given, still the way we react to it is go into don't hurt me mode.

[Jerm]

I just don't get running one option routes in these late game scenarios, makes zero sense...give Pat options.

Just classic Andy overthinking himself, Kelce was unstoppable the entire 2nd half...feed him the damn ball.

[The Franchise]

I honestly think the field had a lot to do with it.

[Warrick]

Andy needs to take a page from Dick Vermeil's strategic play calling and step on the gas, and leave your opponents in the dust.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Some people watched a different game than me last night... We got up by 14 by exploiting the Chargers defense with half time adjustments. The Chargers then adjusted to this, coupled with Fisher and LDT being gassed from not playing, and we had zero time and no established pocket when we tried to throw. We were also down to one running back. Reid, rightly so last night, tried to shorten the game and hold on to the lead. This was the correct decision with last night circumstances. I am talking about last night. Last week, Reid was very aggressive vs. the Titans with the lead, you may not like the calls, but they were aggressive. Last night, even though he tried to shorten the game, he was still aggressive on 3rd and 3. The play had 2 routes with Kelce and I believe Hardman, one at the sticks and one 5 yards behind. Mahomes also was rolling with the option to run. Our line didn't execute and the play didn't work as was the case for most of the 4th quarter. It's hard to run plays when you can't block up front, especially anything down field. The calls to the back in the flat were good plays based on the D and their upfield rush. Mahomes missed one and one was tipped. But hey, bitchers gotta bitch.