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Old 01-05-2020, 07:26 PM   #1
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I agree. What happens to the guy that took him out? He should be forced to leave as well. Teams can simply target a key player and get a simple fine. I think clowney targeted him.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:39 PM   #2
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I agree. What happens to the guy that took him out? He should be forced to leave as well. Teams can simply target a key player and get a simple fine. I think clowney targeted him.
Isn't it the pass rushers job to target the guy doing the passing?
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:29 PM   #3
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I'm still sour about Jamaal Charles, then flowers getting knocked out of the Colts playoff game a few years ago. Regular season... Sure. But ending a season on a doctors fuzzy opinion? Yeah, not a fan of that at all.

I'd argue that concussion protocol can make playoff games even more dangerous. We saw with bountygate what lengths a team will go to to knock a player out. What incentive does a DC have to not coach dirty football they can get away with? It's easy to play super dirty without risk of targeting.

Maybe Wentz didn't want to go back in. We know that Jamaal Charles was super pissed years ago that he couldn't. What say you... Is this an nfl rule that needs to be re-thought?
Jamaal Charles was knocked the **** out. Go look at a video of it. It's a dumb example.
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Old 01-05-2020, 07:37 PM   #4
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Jamaal Charles was knocked the **** out. Go look at a video of it. It's a dumb example.

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Old 01-05-2020, 07:56 PM   #5
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Jamaal Charles was knocked the **** out. Go look at a video of it. It's a dumb example.
He hit his head on the turf. He didn't get knocked out. He was begging to go back in. Kelce is a little different. He was definitely seeing stars.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:06 PM   #6
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He hit his head on the turf. He didn't get knocked out. He was begging to go back in. Kelce is a little different. He was definitely seeing stars.


He is out.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:12 PM   #7
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He is out.
Pretty clearly knocked out.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:30 PM   #8
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Pretty clearly knocked out.
I guess I’m not seeing where it’s obviously any worse than the many plays a game that helmets are hitting things full speed. From what I remember he popped up soon after and was sprinting on the sidelines trying to get back in.
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:09 PM   #9
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He hit his head on the turf. He didn't get knocked out. He was begging to go back in. Kelce is a little different. He was definitely seeing stars.
Him hitting his head on the turf knocked him out
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Old 01-05-2020, 08:14 PM   #10
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Him hitting his head on the turf knocked him out
that isn't turf, it's concrete.

so so glad we don't play on that crap in the playoffs.
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that isn't turf, it's concrete.

so so glad we don't play on that crap in the playoffs.
Yet if we had field turf then most likely Thornhill would still be playing.

It isn’t concrete. It is 4-6” inches of rubber infill underneath.

It really isnt that bad to play on unless it is hot out. Nothing like that AstroTurf crap that we had before Montana.
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I'm still sour about Jamaal Charles, then flowers getting knocked out of the Colts playoff game a few years ago. Regular season... Sure. But ending a season on a doctors fuzzy opinion? Yeah, not a fan of that at all.

I'd argue that concussion protocol can make playoff games even more dangerous. We saw with bountygate what lengths a team will go to to knock a player out. What incentive does a DC have to not coach dirty football they can get away with? It's easy to play super dirty without risk of targeting.

Maybe Wentz didn't want to go back in. We know that Jamaal Charles was super pissed years ago that he couldn't. What say you... Is this an nfl rule that needs to be re-thought?
The NFL is not going to change much about their concussion protocol. Billions are at stake.

Part of the problem is that there's no definitive way to assess the degree of injury to a brain and what level of risk is involved at the stadium, or the hospital for that matter. They don't have a piece of equipment that they can put your head in, look at a screen and say,"oh yeah, he can go back in; he's fine."

Concussions don't work like that.

And Wentz's wife was called down to the locker room after he left the field, so I'm thinking he had a fairly serious concussion and wasn't going to be allowed back on the field anyway.
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The inherent challenge in having a player decide for themselves is that they've just been hit in the head hard enough that there's a concern that they can't think clearly.
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I could see the player who hit another player in the head and the player is out and got flagged being ejected.

There is a huge incentive to take out a difference maker. But, it would still not be a deterrent. Losing a starting CB/LB/DL would still not be comparable ejection to a QB, especially one at Mahomes level.
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I could see the player who hit another player in the head and the player is out and got flagged being ejected.

There is a huge incentive to take out a difference maker. But, it would still not be a deterrent. Losing a starting CB/LB/DL would still not be comparable ejection to a QB, especially one at Mahomes level.
It is at least a start. I don’t see the nfl relaxing rules on protocol. But this at least creates some kind of equal loss. Unlike targeting which ejects a player even if the other guy isn’t hurt, it seems fair that if a player knocks another player out, that player should also sit out until the hurt player clears protocol. This is at least realistic.
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