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Old 09-01-2014, 05:08 PM   #1
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I think they should have thrown Schaub to the wolves while Carr got a firmer grasp of the speed of the game and adjustments from the sidelines, then given him the job after the bye week.

Not the way I would have gone, but I understand the decision.
Yeah this. Schaub should have at least started the first few games. It would have allowed the team to get some of the wrinkles out before they brought in the rook.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:11 PM   #2
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I think they should have thrown Schaub to the wolves while Carr got a firmer grasp of the speed of the game and adjustments from the sidelines, then given him the job after the bye week.

Not the way I would have gone, but I understand the decision.
If they don't improve significantly this year, it'll likely be Allen's last season as HC of the Raiders and Reggie McKenzie's last year as GM. That's probably why they aren't taking it slow with Carr; even though he's not quite ready yet, he does give them the best shot at winning some games this year. Allen is probably hoping that, even if they lose a lot, the FO will see enough growth from Carr to let Allen stay on for another season for the sake of continuity and growth with Derek Carr.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:13 PM   #3
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If they don't improve significantly this year, it'll likely be Allen's last season as HC of the Raiders and Reggie McKenzie's last year as GM. That's probably why they aren't taking it slow with Carr; even though he's not quite ready yet, he does give them the best shot at winning some games this year. Allen is probably hoping that, even if they lose a lot, the FO will see enough growth from Carr to let Allen stay on for another season for the sake of continuity and growth with Derek Carr.
You make a good point, and it's an excellent reason why coaches and GMs cannot be trusted to act in the best interests of the team. They act in the best interests of their next paycheck.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:12 PM   #4
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I think they should have thrown Schaub to the wolves while Carr got a firmer grasp of the speed of the game and adjustments from the sidelines, then given him the job after the bye week.

Not the way I would have gone, but I understand the decision.
I'm guessing that was likely the plan before Schaub starting having elbow issues last week. Wouldn't surprise me if that had been around for a while given his arm strength completely declined later in the 2012 season and hasn't been the same since.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:15 PM   #5
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I'm guessing that was likely the plan before Schaub starting having elbow issues last week. Wouldn't surprise me if that had been around for a while given his arm strength completely declined later in the 2012 season and hasn't been the same since.
You'd think the Raiders might be able to dig up one of the Athletics' team physicians from the sewage overflow in the Coliseum to take a look at Schaub's UCL before trading for him.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:22 PM   #6
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I think they should have thrown Schaub to the wolves while Carr got a firmer grasp of the speed of the game and adjustments from the sidelines, then given him the job after the bye week.

Not the way I would have gone, but I understand the decision.
I agree with you 100%.
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I wish we had that
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:18 PM   #9
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His name is Tyler Bray. He dominates the 4th preseason game with the best of them also.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:19 PM   #10
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His name is Tyler Bray. He dominates the 4th preseason game with the best of them also.
Probably won't see the field in any meaningful way during the regular season before the Chiefs eventually cut him.
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Our organization doesn't think like that. We know for a fact that undrafted QBs never pan out in the NFL. We must keep our retread in there.
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But retreat QBs pan out better than 2nd round QBs that play for their original team. So we still come out ahead
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Yeah, the Raiders are getting it. Even if Carr doesn't pan out, they are trying to draft and develop their own which shows a commitment to long term success (potentially).

And I'm sure if Carr doesn't pan, they will try this again; it's a numbers game. Eventually they will land their 10+ year stud.
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Schaub's got an elbow injury and has been missing practices. That made this an easy decision.
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Yeah, the Raiders are getting it. Even if Carr doesn't pan out, they are trying to draft and develop their own which shows a commitment to long term success (potentially).

And I'm sure if Carr doesn't pan, they will try this again; it's a numbers game. Eventually they will land their 10+ year stud.
Except the Chiefs, we will trade for someone else's qb that they dont want anymore. Chiefs are like that plastic bottle in the ocean thats stuck between the waves. It never gets anywhere. lol
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