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Old 01-07-2013, 04:27 PM   #1
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Kyle may have dicked up a little by not dialing down the motion stuff on offense, but the decision to start RGIII was what virtually anyone would've done.
I would have started him, no doubt. But as soon as he came limping back to the huddle after twisting something on the sidelines that would have been it.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:31 PM   #2
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I would have started him, no doubt. But as soon as he came limping back to the huddle after twisting something on the sidelines that would have been it.
It's damn hard to say.

The Seahawks turned momentum awfully quickly and the Redskins still had a lead. They needed to try to do something to get momentum back and RGIII, even a hobbled one, is still your best bet.

It's just impossible to say what you 'would have done' when you weren't the person asked to do it. We know what we'd like to have done, but we weren't standing on the sidelines with 90K playoff-starved fans and a lead in the 3rd quarter of a game that is tottering on the brink.

I can't blame Shanahan for leaving him in there because I think there's a chance I would have as well. It's a gamblers dilemma. It's like taking a bad beat in poker then going out there and betting aggressively the next time around - it's hard to break the gambler in yourself and football coaches are as human as the rest of us.

You know Shanahan was sitting there thinking that they just need 1 more bullet from RGIII to Moss or Hankerson to steal that momentum back and salt the game away. It just never happened and he got hurt.

I won't kill the guy for that.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:31 PM   #3
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DC fans are furious because they lost - the end.

Had he been able to stay in and complete the comeback, they'd have been all over Shanarats nuts.

It's a results-oriented, hindsight analysis. Every one of them would've started RG in a goddamn home playoff game with the Skins being as hot as any team in football. And they can say all day that they'd have pulled him sooner, but they're likely FOS.

Kyle may have dicked up a little by not dialing down the motion stuff on offense, but the decision to start RGIII was what virtually anyone would've done.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:33 PM   #4
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The fans here in the DC area are furious and 99% are really pissed he stayed in so long. He was hurting early on and should have come out earlier.
It's true. He was never the same after that run play in Q1 out of bounds. By the third quarter they were rolling him out and he was do that little hop that players normally do when they blow out a hammy. When the play came around where he blew out his knee (which I'll be surprised if he didn't, given that his knee went about 25-degrees from the SIDE of the knee) he was clearly a fraction of the guy who led the team on the opening two drives. Really sad to see.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:36 PM   #5
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The bad thing for Shanny is Dr. Andrews unintentionally calling him a liar.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:39 PM   #6
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:50 PM   #7
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The bad thing for Shanny is Dr. Andrews unintentionally calling him a liar.
Andrews was on the sideline. Where was Andrews telling Shanhan to pull him? Where was he arguing for his client/patient?
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:56 PM   #8
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Andrews was on the sideline. Where was Andrews telling Shanhan to pull him? Where was he arguing for his client/patient?
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:48 PM   #9
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Andrews was on the sideline. Where was Andrews telling Shanhan to pull him? Where was he arguing for his client/patient?
Yesterday? I'm not sure what happened yesterday. I would assume he was cleared to keep playing, but that's a different conversation than whether a hobbled, ineffective QB gave the Redskins a better chance to win or not.

But the Andrews situation at large is in reference to a different game. I think their game against the Ravens, where RGIII initially hurt his knee, came back in for a bit, and then went out for the rest of that game. He then missed their next game and was never quite the same.

According to Shanny, Dr. Andrews told him that RGIII was cleared to return to that Ravens game. So if he ended up injuring himself worse when he came back in, hey, not Shanny's fault.

Except Dr. Andrews contradicted that in an interview this past weekend. He said RGIII avoided the doctors and didn't let himself get checked out. So he didn't clear him to go back in because he never even got to look at him. Which would suggest that Shanny made up a conversation.

When RGIII came out the second time against the Ravens, they finally got to check him and said he couldn't go back in.

Shanny tried to tap dance around all of that today. But the point is that everything that happened yesterday is part of a bigger picture where Shanny's credibility doesn't look so hot.
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The bad thing for Shanny is Dr. Andrews unintentionally calling him a liar.
He was really defensive about that. Said he asked if he was okay to play and Dr. Andrews said yes and that was that. But c'mon. Dude could hardly stand upright, much less run around and throw with any zip.
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I don't get it. The guy could barely walk after playing a quarter and a half.

Actually, I'd like to hear the argument as to why Rizzo made the right decision to A) Play him in the first place and/or B) Not pull him after they were up by 14.

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