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Old 12-08-2017, 12:44 PM   #1
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Hey John Dorsey thank you for drafting Patrick Mahomes II. Now can you do us one other solid? Trade for Alex Smith. That be great. He can be your mentor for the Quarterback your gonna draft with your first pick.
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:24 PM   #2
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Five drafts, one playoff win.

Fired.
But not the head coach? What about the offensive coordinator who went an entire season without a WR catching a TD pass?
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:10 PM   #3
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Five drafts, one playoff win.

Fired.
Let's not pretend that coaching, staff, and ownership play no roles in that outcome.

I'm going to be watching this situation in Cleveland VERY closely over the next few years because my theories and feelings regarding Reid remain unchanged.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:40 PM   #4
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This thread is amusing me, pretty typical though someone gets fired so obviously anything wrong with the team is his fault and he gets no credit for anything good.
Dorsey made so many **** ups, especially with contracts and free agency that this team has been in Salary Cap Hell for two years and the result is currently a 4 game losing streak and a 1-6 record in the past 7 games.

I said it before and I'll say it again: Had Brett Veach not traded for Ragland and KPL, this defense would be even further in the shitter.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:41 PM   #5
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This thread is amusing me, pretty typical though someone gets fired so obviously anything wrong with the team is his fault and he gets no credit for anything good.
Dorsey does get credit for the good things he did while here. The problem is, that list has grown shorter and shorter by the week this season. This was the 5th year of 'his roster', and it looks worse than it has at any point during the Reid/Dorsey tenure.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:42 PM   #6
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Dorsey does get credit for the good things he did while here. The problem is, that list has grown shorter and shorter by the week this season. This was the 5th year of 'his roster', and it looks worse than it has at any point during the Reid/Dorsey tenure.
It's mildly ironic that the year he's gone we resemble more of Reid's end of tenure in Philly than anything else.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:43 PM   #7
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Dorsey does get credit for the good things he did while here. The problem is, that list has grown shorter and shorter by the week this season. This was the 5th year of 'his roster', and it looks worse than it has at any point during the Reid/Dorsey tenure.
There is plenty of talent on this roster. Eric Berry is playing this team is a SB contender.. It's not Dorsey's fault he got hurt.. I know all NFL teams have injuries but he was one we could not afford. Just bad luck but Dorsey did great here. Kelce, Tyreek and Hunt are going to be this teams cornerstone for years to come.

We've had a lot of bad luck with injuries during Dorsey's tenure here.. It sucks but every year the talent is always there for us to make the playoffs which is why we did pretty much every year he was here. Reids a great coach but players play the game.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:45 PM   #8
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There is plenty of talent on this roster. Eric Berry is playing this team is a SB contender.. It's not Dorsey's fault he got hurt.. I know all NFL teams have injuries but he was one we could not afford. Just bad luck but Dorsey did great here. Kelce, Tyreek and Hunt are going to be this teams cornerstone for years to come.
Who drafted Eric Berry again?
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:49 PM   #9
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Who drafted Eric Berry again?
Every GM inherits some talent it's the NFL buddy.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:18 PM   #10
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There is plenty of talent on this roster. Eric Berry is playing this team is a SB contender.. It's not Dorsey's fault he got hurt.. I know all NFL teams have injuries but he was one we could not afford. Just bad luck but Dorsey did great here. Kelce, Tyreek and Hunt are going to be this teams cornerstone for years to come.

We've had a lot of bad luck with injuries during Dorsey's tenure here.. It sucks but every year the talent is always there for us to make the playoffs which is why we did pretty much every year he was here. Reids a great coach but players play the game.
Eric Berry is not the difference maker you are stating. He's really good but when he was out with Lymphoma treatment our D didn't miss a beat. Our coaching is at fault for a poor D in my opinion. Peters attitude is undermining the team , finally he's being called out. DJ needs to be phased out. Ragland is going to be a GREAT pickup.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:27 PM   #11
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Eric Berry is not the difference maker you are stating. He's really good but when he was out with Lymphoma treatment our D didn't miss a beat. Our coaching is at fault for a poor D in my opinion. Peters attitude is undermining the team , finally he's being called out. DJ needs to be phased out. Ragland is going to be a GREAT pickup.
I completely disagree. Players impact the game far more than coaches. Coaches don't play. You can have the greatest scheme in the world but if the players don't execute it means nothing. You have a Pro Bowler like Eric Berry or any Pro Bowler playing they are going to make a difference. How big a difference is depends on a variety of factors but players impact the game the most.

But I respect your opinion.

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good response

list all of the achievements of dorsey

then list all of the achievements of peterson

then see who did more

The world didnt begin when we got Smith you ****ing imbecile
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I'm pretty sure the terrible coaching has way more to do with the 1-6 record than a guy who hasn't been here for 6 months.

The team isn't even untalented. Also someone argue to me that anyone is better at picking up dudes that get cut and finding talent there.
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:25 PM   #13
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I'm pretty sure the terrible coaching has way more to do with the 1-6 record than a guy who hasn't been here for 6 months.
****ing reeruned

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The team isn't even untalented. Also someone argue to me that anyone is better at picking up dudes that get cut and finding talent there.


When the Chiefs had the #1 Waiver Priority in 2013, the Chiefs claimed Jaye Howard, Marcus Cooper and Ron Parker. Those were nice additions.

Who else should be included in this list?

Kurt Coleman, who played in Philly under Reid?
Tyvon Branch, who was a medical disaster?
Jemell Fleming?

People on CP have over-exaggerated Dorsey's effectiveness for years while failing to mention all of the bad contracts including Vance Walker, Dywane Bowe, Tamba Hali, Bennie Logan, Dunta Robinson, Jeremy Maclin, Jaye Howard, Ben Grubbs, etc. and so on.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:11 AM   #14
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I'm pretty sure the terrible coaching has way more to do with the 1-6 record than a guy who hasn't been here for 6 months.

The team isn't even untalented. Also someone argue to me that anyone is better at picking up dudes that get cut and finding talent there.
Yup this is the end of Philly PT II. Andy won his power struggle got his guy and they've tanked.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:00 PM   #15
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Yup this is the end of Philly PT II. Andy won his power struggle got his guy and they've tanked.
I respectfully disagree. The fact is, we haven't really even started with the new order of things yet. Neither Veach nor Mahomes have had their opportunities to begin contributing on a large scale yet, and those two guys are paramount to the future of the franchise.
Reid is what he is, but Veach and Mahomes have the potential to be better than Reid, and that's EXACTLY what its going to take to make this work.
And if we want to slam-dunk the equation?
Buttons has got...to go.
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