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Old 10-14-2012, 09:59 PM   #1
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I have a life, I don't have time to watch games 24/7. The stats and rankings however do not lie; and they are quite easy to look up for when I do have the time.
Stats lie all the ****ing time, especially without the context of actually seeing things for yourself.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:17 PM   #2
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Stats lie all the ****ing time, especially without the context of actually seeing things for yourself.
The "stats lie" argument can be used both ways to make a point. You conveniently interject it to benefit your argument. Three of West Virginias wins came against unranked teams. Baylor is barely ranked at all (#25) and has one of the worst defenses in the nation. So four unimpressive wins and barely edging out a bad Texas team that got murdered by Oklahoma somehow makes Geno Smith the best football player to ever lace up? lol This must be why people think the mid-west is full of reeruned rednecks. Wheres the rational?
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:22 PM   #3
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The "stats lie" argument can be used both ways to make a point. You conveniently interject it to benefit your argument. Three of West Virginias wins came against unranked teams. Baylor is barely ranked at all (#25) and has one of the worst defenses in the nation. So four unimpressive wins and barely edging out a bad Texas team that got murdered by Oklahoma somehow makes Geno Smith the best football player to ever lace up? lol This must be why people think the mid-west is full of reeruned rednecks. Wheres the rational?
So out of curiosity, what part of Geno's game don't you like?

How do you feel about his accuracy on short and intermediate throws? Deep balls? What do you think of his pocket presence or ability to read through progressions? What do you think of his throwing motion and release?

I'm game to entertain the idea that Smith is overrated. I'd just like to hear the specifics on what you don't like.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:23 PM   #4
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The "stats lie" argument can be used both ways to make a point. You conveniently interject it to benefit your argument. Three of West Virginias wins came against unranked teams. Baylor is barely ranked at all (#25) and has one of the worst defenses in the nation. So four unimpressive wins and barely edging out a bad Texas team that got murdered by Oklahoma somehow makes Geno Smith the best football player to ever lace up? lol This must be why people think the mid-west is full of reeruned rednecks. Wheres the rational?
Best QB that we should take equals best player to ever lace up? Part of the reason Baylor is barely a top 25 is because of what Geno did to them. Again, as mentioned earlier, you should probably go watch him before calling him out on his schedule or thinking people are going over board.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:38 PM   #5
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So out of curiosity, what part of Geno's game don't you like?

How do you feel about his accuracy on short and intermediate throws? Deep balls? What do you think of his pocket presence or ability to read through progressions? What do you think of his throwing motion and release?

I'm game to entertain the idea that Smith is overrated. I'd just like to hear the specifics on what you don't like.
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Best QB that we should take equals best player to ever lace up? Part of the reason Baylor is barely a top 25 is because of what Geno did to them. Again, as mentioned earlier, you should probably go watch him before calling him out on his schedule or thinking people are going over board.
You people seem to be mistaken. I do not have a problem with Genos skill set or performances. I think he is a good player who has tremendous upside. But, is he the best QB prospect in next years draft? I remain skeptical. Yes, he is a first round pick, and will likely go in the top 5 no matter if he goes first or not...

As for his working skill sets; I'll leave that up to far more qualified individuals to assess. I do not happen to think he is a "slam dunk" player like many here happen to think he is. But thats because I think many here have incredibly unrealistic expectations. Against ranked quality opponents, he comes up average statistically. There is no crazy breakout game that puts me in awe of his abilities when it comes to playing other quality teams. Against sub par teams, hes great...against decent teams, hes remarkably average.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:39 PM   #6
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You people seem to be mistaken. I do not have a problem with Genos skill set or performances. I think he is a good player who has tremendous upside. But, is he the best QB prospect in next years draft? I remain skeptical. Yes, he is a first round pick, and will likely go in the top 5 no matter if he goes first or not...

As for his working skill sets; I'll leave that up to far more qualified individuals to assess. I do not happen to think he is a "slam dunk" player like many here happen to think he is. But thats because I think many here have incredibly unrealistic expectations. Against ranked quality opponents, he comes up average statistically. There is no crazy breakout game that puts me in awe of his abilities when it comes to playing other quality teams. Against sub par teams, hes great...against decent teams, hes remarkably average.
That's racist.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:43 PM   #7
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:47 PM   #8
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:43 PM   #9
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You people seem to be mistaken. I do not have a problem with Genos skill set or performances. I think he is a good player who has tremendous upside. But, is he the best QB prospect in next years draft? I remain skeptical. Yes, he is a first round pick, and will likely go in the top 5 no matter if he goes first or not...

As for his working skill sets; I'll leave that up to far more qualified individuals to assess. I do not happen to think he is a "slam dunk" player like many here happen to think he is. But thats because I think many here have incredibly unrealistic expectations. Against ranked quality opponents, he comes up average statistically. There is no crazy breakout game that puts me in awe of his abilities when it comes to playing other quality teams. Against sub par teams, hes great...against decent teams, hes remarkably average.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:48 PM   #10
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You people seem to be mistaken. I do not have a problem with Genos skill set or performances. I think he is a good player who has tremendous upside. But, is he the best QB prospect in next years draft? I remain skeptical. Yes, he is a first round pick, and will likely go in the top 5 no matter if he goes first or not...

As for his working skill sets; I'll leave that up to far more qualified individuals to assess. I do not happen to think he is a "slam dunk" player like many here happen to think he is. But thats because I think many here have incredibly unrealistic expectations. Against ranked quality opponents, he comes up average statistically. There is no crazy breakout game that puts me in awe of his abilities when it comes to playing other quality teams. Against sub par teams, hes great...against decent teams, hes remarkably average.
So you're calling out others' ability to evaluate QBs, but you don't have any actual stance on why they are wrong? That's brilliant. gtfo douchebag
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:53 PM   #11
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So you're calling out others' ability to evaluate QBs, but you don't have any actual stance on why they are wrong? That's brilliant. gtfo douchebag
I do not recall specifying my argument. I'll leave that evaluation up to actual NFL scouts...not some wannabe poster on Chiefsplanet.com who has over 20,000 posts...
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:11 PM   #12
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I do not recall specifying my argument. I'll leave that evaluation up to actual NFL scouts...not some wannabe poster on Chiefsplanet.com who has over 20,000 posts...
You specifically said...

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I wouldn't say as good as many here seem to be thinking
You clearly believe that you know something that the rest of us rubes don't. Yet you haven't given anything to support that opinion. In fact, based on what you've posted so far, I'm not even sure you've seen the guy play. your first comment on the subject was something about what you "heard".

You want to disagree with the popular opinion around here on Geno Smith, that's fine. But at least have something to back it up.

And you may want to read around the internet a little about Smith. You may find that us dumbass fans aren't the only ones getting the wool pulled over their eyes with this Geno Smith illusion.
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