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Old 02-20-2020, 10:15 AM   #1
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This is basically all angled to extend the season and be able to add teams.

If you get to 18 games and expanded playoffs look what you can do...You can add a bye to the regular season, you add a round to the playoffs etc and all of the sudden you've extended the season by a month.

Also an 18 game schedule makes expansion easier, don't be surprised if they end up getting up to 40 teams in the next 20 years.

This is all about money, more teams, more weeks more games more money.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:14 PM   #2
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This is basically all angled to extend the season and be able to add teams.

If you get to 18 games and expanded playoffs look what you can do...You can add a bye to the regular season, you add a round to the playoffs etc and all of the sudden you've extended the season by a month.

Also an 18 game schedule makes expansion easier, don't be surprised if they end up getting up to 40 teams in the next 20 years.

This is all about money, more teams, more weeks more games more money.
What 8 cities could support NFL expansion? The list looks very weak. San Antonio and San Diego are possibles. I don't really buy Orlando or Portland. The big ones were Las Vegas and LA which both got teams. Salt Lake seems like a big loser. What pro athlete wants to move to Mormon town?
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:36 PM   #3
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What 8 cities could support NFL expansion? The list looks very weak. San Antonio and San Diego are possibles. I don't really buy Orlando or Portland. The big ones were Las Vegas and LA which both got teams. Salt Lake seems like a big loser. What pro athlete wants to move to Mormon town?
8 cities that can support NFL teams, now remember newer are building smaller stadiums as this is a TV product.

1. Toronto
2. San Antonio/Austin both of these cities are huge so pick one
3. Portland
4. Oklahoma City
5. San Diego
6. St Louis
7. Albuquerque
8. Louisville

Those bottom 2 are longer shots but I left off places like London, Mexico City, Vancouver and even Salt Lake, there are a lot of options. Hell Columbus Ohio is massive but the Buckeyes are there so....
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:25 PM   #4
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8 cities that can support NFL teams, now remember newer are building smaller stadiums as this is a TV product.

1. Toronto
2. San Antonio/Austin both of these cities are huge so pick one
3. Portland
4. Oklahoma City
5. San Diego
6. St Louis
7. Albuquerque
8. Louisville

Those bottom 2 are longer shots but I left off places like London, Mexico City, Vancouver and even Salt Lake, there are a lot of options. Hell Columbus Ohio is massive but the Buckeyes are there so....
Move one of the struggling franchises like the Chargers, Jags or Bucs to Toronto.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:29 PM   #5
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Move one of the struggling franchises like the Chargers, Jags or Bucs to Toronto.
That isn't what they want though, they want more teams because that is more games.

Also the NFLPA is gonna love this because that is a ton more jobs, I expect expanded roster sizes at some point to to help with that too.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:40 PM   #6
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That isn't what they want though, they want more teams because that is more games.

Also the NFLPA is gonna love this because that is a ton more jobs, I expect expanded roster sizes at some point to to help with that too.
NFL already has the most teams in any American League. And at least 10 of those can’t get support. It would severely damage the product adding more teams.
Only 1/3 of the teams now are truly competitive. Lot of boring games nobody will watch.

You don’t need to add teams to get more revenue.

Make the pro bowl a fun skills challenge and have more fan attendance, move a struggling team to Canada, add more games in Europe, add a 2nd combine for lesser prospects in March (people will watch) and for gods sake quit having shit teams in prime time. Move the limit of 6 prime time games per team to 7.

More Cowboys and more Mahomes on primetime=more eyes watching=$$$
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:52 PM   #7
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NFL already has the most teams in any American League. And at least 10 of those can’t get support. It would severely damage the product adding more teams.
Only 1/3 of the teams now are truly competitive. Lot of boring games nobody will watch.

You don’t need to add teams to get more revenue.

Make the pro bowl a fun skills challenge and have more fan attendance, move a struggling team to Canada, add more games in Europe, add a 2nd combine for lesser prospects in March (people will watch) and for gods sake quit having shit teams in prime time. Move the limit of 6 prime time games per team to 7.

More Cowboys and more Mahomes on primetime=more eyes watching=$$$
You're missing the point, the more games that are on TV the more the tv contracts become worth at that point. The NFL isn't in the game of trying to have some ultra competitive league they are in the business of making money.

More and more sports are about tv not live attendance why do you think stadiums are being built smaller now?
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Old 02-20-2020, 07:56 PM   #8
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More Cowboys and more Mahomes on primetime=more eyes watching=$$$
Yeah, just what the league needs! More Cowboys games on national TV!
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Old 02-20-2020, 08:14 PM   #9
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For gods sake quit having shit teams in prime time. Move the limit of 6 prime time games per team to 7.
The limit of six games is fine. If the same team or teams are playing in Prime Time 41% of the time, the networks will lose viewers due to sheer boredom, if not hate.

Who wants to see Tom Brady & Bill Belichick seven times in Prime Time along with their allotted national morning and afternoon games?

Also, it's really, really difficult for the league to consistently schedule the "best" teams and games in Prime Time because there's so much movement in Free Agency, along with injuries that just derail seasons.

The Networks don't pay an equal amount for each package, they bid on the rights to broadcast the AFC, NFC, MNF, SNF & TNF. So the last thing that CBS or Fox wants to do is give up that awesome morning or afternoon game to NBC or ESPN due to "flexing" because it affects their bottom line and their revenues as well.

While it seems like there's been a recent rash of bad Prime Time games, I really don't want to see it go back to what it was in the 70's, 80's and most of the 90's, in which we see the same teams every Sunday afternoon or in Prime Time: The NY Giants, Washington Redskins, Philadelphia Eagles, San Francisco 49ers, Miami Dolphins, the Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys, all because they were the "winningest" teams but more importantly to the networks, the cities with the largest population and fan bases.

At least there's Sunday Ticket today but back then, it was either watch the games on broadcast TV or turn off the TV on Sunday afternoon or Monday night.

I don't think anyone wants a repeat of those days.
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Old 02-20-2020, 08:06 PM   #10
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8 cities that can support NFL teams, now remember newer are building smaller stadiums as this is a TV product.

1. Toronto
2. San Antonio/Austin both of these cities are huge so pick one
3. Portland
4. Oklahoma City
5. San Diego
6. St Louis
7. Albuquerque
8. Louisville

Those bottom 2 are longer shots but I left off places like London, Mexico City, Vancouver and even Salt Lake, there are a lot of options. Hell Columbus Ohio is massive but the Buckeyes are there so....
1: Canadians aren't going to be happy about an American league team even if it's in Canada. Not gonna work.

2 & 4: Jerry Jones isn't going to divvy up his franchise's reach any more than it currently is between the Texans and Saints. Not happening.

3: Someone's gonna pony up a billion for the franchise rights AND self-fund a stadium since an uber-left city like Portland isn't gonna allow for a taxpayer funded football stadium? lol nope.

5: Even in a new, downsized stadium the local populace won't care and it'll be partially filled with fans of the visiting team. But sure if some billionaire wants to do it: go for it.

6: St. Louis is a baseball and hockey town, AND there are three if not four franchises that aren't going to want to cede marketshare. Not happening.

7: See #3, except less lefty.

8: See #6 except that the fact there's no pro competition (beyond AAA baseball) is traded off by the fact it's smaller and much less wealthy than St. Louis. Not gonna happen.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:31 PM   #11
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1: Canadians aren't going to be happy about an American league team even if it's in Canada. Not gonna work.
More Canadians are watching the NFL than the CFL (including me), so I'm not sure I follow on this one.

There's no doubt that such a franchise would be successful with as much money as there is in Toronto right now, but I would think the real reasons that the NFL doesn't want to expand there is because they're not adding a US television market by doing so (incredibly important to the major network network television partners who call the shots) and they've already got a built-in fanbase throughout the city/country with everyone already watching their own respective teams. If international expansion is going to happen any time soon, I think it will be elsewhere.
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It’s either at least 3-4 more years of Sammy or he’s gone.
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This is basically all angled to extend the season and be able to add teams.

If you get to 18 games and expanded playoffs look what you can do...You can add a bye to the regular season, you add a round to the playoffs etc and all of the sudden you've extended the season by a month.

Also an 18 game schedule makes expansion easier, don't be surprised if they end up getting up to 40 teams in the next 20 years.

This is all about money, more teams, more weeks more games more money.
They obviously want teams in other countries, too.

They want the world football league.
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