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Old 11-14-2018, 05:06 PM   #1
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Dude, you do know they still make music in the 21st century, right?
Heh, I'm right there with him

Most new music just doesnt match up to the old favorites
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:42 PM   #2
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Heh, I'm right there with him

Most new music just doesnt match up to the old favorites
Most old music didn't match up to old favorites. There's a lot of new music out there and some of it is really good. It's just a matter of finding what you like. In the meantime, like always, you have to wade through a bunch of stuff that doesn't rate to find the gems. And of course one person's gems are another person's garbage.
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:11 PM   #3
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Most old music didn't match up to old favorites. There's a lot of new music out there and some of it is really good. It's just a matter of finding what you like. In the meantime, like always, you have to wade through a bunch of stuff that doesn't rate to find the gems. And of course one person's gems are another person's garbage.
Exactly. There's been a ton of trash music since the beginning of time. People have always had to actually LOOK for good, current music. It doesn't just grow on trees.
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Old 11-15-2018, 07:01 PM   #4
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Most old music didn't match up to old favorites. There's a lot of new music out there and some of it is really good. It's just a matter of finding what you like. In the meantime, like always, you have to wade through a bunch of stuff that doesn't rate to find the gems. And of course one person's gems are another person's garbage.
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Exactly. There's been a ton of trash music since the beginning of time. People have always had to actually LOOK for good, current music. It doesn't just grow on trees.
Sorry gents, but I'm not accepting a browbeating here

All art is rightfully in the mind of the beholder, and for many of us... maybe we're just not feeling the same magic from this new era of music, across several genres

I'm still waiting for the next truly dangerous rock n roll band



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Old 11-16-2018, 08:42 PM   #5
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Sorry gents, but I'm not accepting a browbeating here

All art is rightfully in the mind of the beholder, and for many of us... maybe we're just not feeling the same magic from this new era of music, across several genres

I'm still waiting for the next truly dangerous rock n roll band



If GN'R or Nirvana came about today, neither would be regarded as 'dangerous'; Rock n roll itself is no longer considered dangerous. No one buys albums anymore, or even mp3s, and at 30% of a cent per Pandora stream, the 'next, most dangerous band' couldn't make bail for the early offenses at those wages, and that was that.


no, seriously...major labels shy away from the "actually dangerous with something to say" and are drawn to the more stable/consistent behavior of "pretending to be dangerous with nothing to say" (Godsmack/Nickleback/Volbeat/FFDP/etc).

They hate bands who are volatile and who may either self implode or cause a riot, seemingly at the flip of the coin..

Those days are over. But dangerous or not, those two bands had great songs and made great albums.

There are still bands who have great songs and make great albums. I listed a few above.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:27 PM   #6
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If GN'R or Nirvana came about today, neither would be regarded as 'dangerous'; Rock n roll itself is no longer considered dangerous. No one buys albums anymore, or even mp3s, and at 30% of a cent per Pandora stream, the 'next, most dangerous band' couldn't make bail for the early offenses at those wages, and that was that.


no, seriously...major labels shy away from the "actually dangerous with something to say" and are drawn to the more stable/consistent behavior of "pretending to be dangerous with nothing to say" (Godsmack/Nickleback/Volbeat/FFDP/etc).

They hate bands who are volatile and who may either self implode or cause a riot, seemingly at the flip of the coin..

Those days are over. But dangerous or not, those two bands had great songs and made great albums.

There are still bands who have great songs and make great albums. I listed a few above.
The last great dangerous group that had popular impact in a major country was BiS. They just weren't known much in the English speaking world.

It is not their lyrics but what they did. They attacked the huge chart topping idol industry, they trolled their fans, their videos sometimes had blood, nudity, and horrific imagery, they did nude photo shoots, they were highly varied in their sound, they collaborated with a noise rock band, and at the height of their popularity they broke up and then did a concert the very next day as ex-BiS.

Their live shows could devolve into chaos as they played the same song over and over again:

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Old 11-17-2018, 07:20 AM   #7
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The last great dangerous group that had popular impact in a major country was BiS. They just weren't known much in the English speaking world.

It is not their lyrics but what they did. They attacked the huge chart topping idol industry, they trolled their fans, their videos sometimes had blood, nudity, and horrific imagery, they did nude photo shoots, they were highly varied in their sound, they collaborated with a noise rock band, and at the height of their popularity they broke up and then did a concert the very next day as ex-BiS.

Their live shows could devolve into chaos as they played the same song over and over again:

Neil Young did all that first, and he was actually able to create timeless music in the process.

Well, except for the nude photo shoots. Neil never did that.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:50 PM   #8
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If GN'R or Nirvana came about today, neither would be regarded as 'dangerous'; Rock n roll itself is no longer considered dangerous. No one buys albums anymore, or even mp3s, and at 30% of a cent per Pandora stream, the 'next, most dangerous band' couldn't make bail for the early offenses at those wages, and that was that.


no, seriously...major labels shy away from the "actually dangerous with something to say" and are drawn to the more stable/consistent behavior of "pretending to be dangerous with nothing to say" (Godsmack/Nickleback/Volbeat/FFDP/etc).

They hate bands who are volatile and who may either self implode or cause a riot, seemingly at the flip of the coin..

Those days are over. But dangerous or not, those two bands had great songs and made great albums.

There are still bands who have great songs and make great albums. I listed a few above.
Sure wont be taking a dressing down from some guy your age, either

When you're throwing around the Black Keys as some kind of raucous rebellion, I'd beg to differ... the old days dont have to die, someone just needs to step up
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Sure wont be taking a dressing down from some guy your age, either

When you're throwing around the Black Keys as some kind of raucous rebellion, I'd beg to differ... the old days dont have to die, someone just needs to step up
I don't give a toss about racous rebellion; I just dig good songs and good records.

The list was more about bands with a "classic sound", than about any perception of rebellion (there was more than one band on the list, too).

I leave the 'dangerous rebellion' shit to wrtiers in SPIN and RS who aim their articles at kids who still believe in the ideological myth of "rock as rebellion", if that even exists anymore.

Am I jaded?
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Old 11-19-2018, 12:23 PM   #10
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Sure wont be taking a dressing down from some guy your age, either

When you're throwing around the Black Keys as some kind of raucous rebellion, I'd beg to differ... the old days dont have to die, someone just needs to step up
I wonder how old you think I actually am?
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Sorry gents, but I'm not accepting a browbeating here

All art is rightfully in the mind of the beholder, and for many of us... maybe we're just not feeling the same magic from this new era of music, across several genres

I'm still waiting for the next truly dangerous rock n roll band
Did you infer that Nirvana was a "dangerous rock n roll band"?
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Did you infer that Nirvana was a "dangerous rock n roll band"?
Only to the hair bands that had long since devolved to self parody. To the culture in general? Not really.
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Heh, I'm right there with him

Most new music just doesnt match up to the old favorites
Check out :

The Steepwater Band
Don't Mind Dying
The Allman Betts Band
Tedeschi/Trucks Band
The Magpie Salute
Chris Robinson Brotherhood
Circles Around the Sun
Gov't Mule
Marcus King Band
Sturgill Simpson
Margo Price
Blackberry Smoke
The White Stripes
The Black Keys
Aaron Kamm & the One Drops
St Paul & the Broken Bones
Charles Bradley
Daryl Hance
JJ Grey & Mofro
My Morning Jacket
SIMO
Surco
Twiddle

And my bands :
Driving Wheel
The MMB

are fairly old school, as well.
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