The Raiders have a Gruden problem

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

With Tony Dungys players. TB soon went to shit afterwards.

Then how come Dungy didn't take Tampa to a Super Bowl?

The guy just about wasted Manning's career

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP

Then how come Dungy didn't take Tampa to a Super Bowl?

The guy just about wasted Manning's career

Almost except he did win a Super Bowl with Manning. Are you dumb enough to believe Gruden built that Super Bowl team by himself. Rhetorical question of course you are, you’re a faider fan.

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Almost except he did win a Super Bowl with Manning. Are you dumb enough to believe Gruden built that Super Bowl team by himself. Rhetorical question of course you are, you’re a faider fan.

Of course not. But that wasn't the topic of discussion. Gruden did something with Dungy's team that Dungy couldn't.

Ad hominem attack. Tapout accepted.

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP

Of course not. But that wasn't the topic of discussion. Gruden did something with Dungy's team that Dungy couldn't.

Ad hominem attack. Tapout accepted.

Gruden always had poor offenses in Tampa

This Carr is crashing

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP

Of course not. But that wasn't the topic of discussion. Gruden did something with Dungy's team that Dungy couldn't.

Ad hominem attack. Tapout accepted.

You’re the one who brought up Peyton Manning moron. I totally understand why you’re dumb enough to believe it was Gruden who magically turned the bucs into a super bowl winner in one year and not him winning with Dungys players.