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Old 09-09-2003, 11:14 AM   #1
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I could not stand being a Steelers fan. You know exactly what your getting from them every single season. You get a solid team that plays tough D and for the most part, mistake free O. You would know as a Steelers fan, that your team is playoff caliber, barring injuries, but in the back of your mind, you also know that you aren't getting to the big one either. I would rather a team not make the playoffs than consistently lose again, and again, and again in the playoffs year after year.

I couldn't take it. There's no mystery involved with the Steelers.
You're wrong. Cowher has changed considerably. This year they are very much a pass first and open up the field type of offense. Maddox + their WRs are their greatest strength. Their O-lines rush blocking is pretty weak too.
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:17 AM   #2
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You're wrong. Cowher has changed considerably. This year they are very much a pass first and open up the field type of offense. Maddox + their WRs are their greatest strength. Their O-lines rush blocking is pretty weak too.
So your telling me the Steelers are going to the Super Bowl? LOL! Cowher did change from a run first, to a pass first team which does give the Steelers a more explosive offense, mainly because Jerome Bettis just doesn't have it in him anymore to pound on teams for 4 straight quarters. But if you think the Steelers are going to finish any better than 10-6 to 11-5 and a win or two in the playoffs, then your crazy. Or maybe you should just go root for them instead.
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:28 AM   #3
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So your telling me the Steelers are going to the Super Bowl? LOL! Cowher did change from a run first, to a pass first team which does give the Steelers a more explosive offense, mainly because Jerome Bettis just doesn't have it in him anymore to pound on teams for 4 straight quarters. But if you think the Steelers are going to finish any better than 10-6 to 11-5 and a win or two in the playoffs, then your crazy. Or maybe you should just go root for them instead.
Lay off...He's got a good point. No reason to be so rude.

And I do cheer for them as well. Just not this week....
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:30 AM   #4
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Lay off...He's got a good point. No reason to be so rude.

And I do cheer for them as well. Just not this week....
Lay off? Don't be so rude? Where was I rude. I stated my opinion, he told me I was wrong, so I explained my opinion in detail a little more. The whole, root for them comment was made jokingly. Obviously if your on this board, your a big KC fan. I think you need to lighten up a little bit.
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:33 AM   #5
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It's just my opinion, which I am entitled to. I would rather a team not go to the playoffs then see them lose season after season. It's a great accomplishment to be able to win consistantly enough to put your team into the playoffs each season, but at some point, you need to take that next step and win a Super Bowl. At some point, playoffs just don't cut it anymore. The Steelers and Cowher haven't been able to do that. And they won't be able to do that this season either. It doesn't matter what the O philosophy is.

I'm aware that Cowher led them to a Super Bowl. Only to let there fans and team down again as O'Donnell choked it away.
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:34 AM   #6
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Never did I say anywhere in my reply that this was the same type of team like Cowher had in his early years.
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:37 AM   #7
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I'm not a Cowher fan either but he's a good coach. I prefer that he not be my team's coach, but he's a good coach...
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Old 09-09-2003, 12:29 PM   #8
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but when was the last time the Chiefs made it to the playoffs? You beat a lowly Charger team and all of a sudden you believe that you are Super Bowl bound? The Steelers lost to the Titans last year and it was a close game. Yes we came up on the short end of the stick but we picked up where we left off of last year. Plus, this team is experienced enough to not only get to the Super Bowl, but win it...

Tampa Bay felt how good we were becoming last year when we went to their house and kicked their tails...

I'm not saying that the Chiefs are not a good team, especially with the weapon you have in Holmes but remember that we know him well from his days with the Ravens. Holmes is a real playmaker but teams don't run the ball against the Steelers. THAT IS A FACT! Trent Green is going to have to beat us with his arm and that opens him up to serious pressure from our D. Plus, Trent Green hasn't taken the team anywhere so I'm too worried about him at this point...

No more Kordell to srew up games for the Steelers and Chicago has to deal with him now. The Steelers have Tommy Maddox, a guy that can stretch the field with all of his weapons. Tommy is going to show you why the Steelers are the best team in the AFC. HE'S NO FLUKE!

And never, ever underestimate Cowher. He's made improvements on the Steelers and the Rooneys kept him around because he is one of the best in the business. He makes the necessary adjustments based on his talent available...

We are now a passing team first but always run the football well. The Ravens have a good run defense with Ray Lewis, Peter Boulware, and their rookie, Suggs, but they were weak ini pass defense...

The Chiefs better protect Green and execute to perfection if they have a shot at beating the Steelers...

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Old 09-09-2003, 12:34 PM   #9
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Holmes ran all over your ass last time you faced him (20 carries, 150yds)
and don't give me any of that 'yeah, but we won' crap - we have a completely revamped receiver corps since that game and a QB who has two solid legs under him.

You fools are walking into the jaws of the beast, baby. Top scoring O of last season and no signs of slowing down. Uh-oh, looks like we've now got a defense too
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Old 09-09-2003, 12:35 PM   #10
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...The Chiefs better protect Green and execute to perfection if they have a shot at beating the Steelers...
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Old 09-09-2003, 01:07 PM   #11
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It's just my opinion, which I am entitled to. I would rather a team not go to the playoffs then see them lose season after season. It's a great accomplishment to be able to win consistantly enough to put your team into the playoffs each season, but at some point, you need to take that next step and win a Super Bowl. At some point, playoffs just don't cut it anymore. The Steelers and Cowher haven't been able to do that. And they won't be able to do that this season either. It doesn't matter what the O philosophy is.

I'm aware that Cowher led them to a Super Bowl. Only to let there fans and team down again as O'Donnell choked it away.
Geezus fir-icken Crisse. They do something the Chiefs haven't done in my lifetime, and get closer to that goal than we do year in year out, and you look down on it? Only one team wins the SB every year, and being in the mix, and no they aren't a one and done team in the playoffs either. Get a little perspective, would'ya?
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Old 09-09-2003, 06:00 PM   #12
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I can't wait to watch this game.

Both teams are really solid. I think the Chiefs will have a good challenge but prevail in the end.
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Old 09-09-2003, 06:45 PM   #13
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I can't wait to watch this game.

Both teams are really solid. I think the Chiefs will have a good challenge but prevail in the end.
You sound as dellusional as most other Fans on here!


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Old 09-09-2003, 11:28 AM   #14
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So your telling me the Steelers are going to the Super Bowl? LOL! Cowher did change from a run first, to a pass first team which does give the Steelers a more explosive offense, mainly because Jerome Bettis just doesn't have it in him anymore to pound on teams for 4 straight quarters. But if you think the Steelers are going to finish any better than 10-6 to 11-5 and a win or two in the playoffs, then your crazy. Or maybe you should just go root for them instead.
I'm sure you are aware that Cowher actually has taken the Steelers to the Super Bowl. And considering there are AT MOST 4 games in the playoffs, "a win or two" is nothing to sneeze at. I'm no big fan of the Steelers, but I'm likewise no big fan of people denigrating a pedigree that is as respectablem enviable even, as Cowher's and the Steelers. It's just not realistic.
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:32 AM   #15
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So your telling me the Steelers are going to the Super Bowl? LOL! Cowher did change from a run first, to a pass first team which does give the Steelers a more explosive offense, mainly because Jerome Bettis just doesn't have it in him anymore to pound on teams for 4 straight quarters. But if you think the Steelers are going to finish any better than 10-6 to 11-5 and a win or two in the playoffs, then your crazy. Or maybe you should just go root for them instead.
I'm not saying they're going to the SB, but I think they are good enough to have a chance to go. I'm just saying that you're wrong thinking this is the same type of Steelers team from Cowher's early years. Yes they still play a 3-4 and have a very good front seven, but their secondary is not what it once was. I think Maddox is a huge upgrade over Kordell, and they have some very dangerous WRs. Best of all they play in the weakest division. That alone will help them get into the playoffs - and maybe even home field advantage. This game could very much be a preview of the post season.
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