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Old 12-08-2019, 07:03 PM  
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Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken?
Great win today. But the offense and situational manage to continues to not be good.

What’s most troubling to me is the dynamics of the offense have been pretty much reduced to a more normal level. Mahomes has really reduced his willingness lately to throw down field, especially on third down. Without breaking everything down I can’t give numbers but I think we all see Mahomes being too willing to check it down and not throw beyond the sticks on third downs given the chance. The third down check down late to Hill comes to mind. He had two options wide open right in his field of vision but didn’t go there. Sometimes he has good pockets and sometimes not, but that was the case all last season too. We haven’t protected him well with any consistent so I don’t view that as the main culprit.

So what’s the issue? Reid encouraging him to “take what the defense gives you” too much? Reid calling plays that encourage short plays too much? Mahomes not reading the field correctly? Mahomes bailing from clean pockets too often?
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:15 PM   #16
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The big issue as of now is he’s got happy feet, no trust to stand in the pocket.

But he’s actually making things worse on him by running backwards and getting the tackles beat bad. He needs to start sliding through the B gaps if he wants to escape.
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:21 PM   #17
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We just beat the Patriots.

In their house.

In December.
what kind of dumb **** would down vote that?
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:22 PM   #18
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Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken?
The other play that stood out live was missing Hill wide open in the end zone. That was a play where he backed out of the pocket, which didn’t look like he needed to, and threw an incompletion elsewhere that had no chance. I know it’s picky but it’s definitely something they are probably looking at as well. We just aren’t used to seeing this from the offense so I have to wonder the causes.

Just took a quick look as I suspect this might be a lot about Reid and last season his first half and second half y/a were 8.7 and 8.9 respectively. This season his second half y/a is down from basically all other situations at 7.6 with his first half being a healthy 9 y/a. So that definitely points to a trend that we’ve seen in the second half not involving nearly as much aggressive passing.
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:22 PM   #19
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again - what kind of dumb **** would down vote that?
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:27 PM   #20
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Reid told Kelce to run backwards and fumble?
No. Kelce was a total dipshit on that play
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:03 PM   #21
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again - what kind of dumb **** would down vote that?
papi - whoever that is
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A lot of it is Mahomes fault. I don't know whether it's the injuries or what but he's missing open players(either by making a bad throw or by not even throwing to them) a lot more than he did last year.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:09 PM   #23
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A lot of it is Mahomes fault. I don't know whether it's the injuries or what but he's missing open players(either by making a bad throw or by not even throwing to them) a lot more than he did last year.
Pretty much. Not sure how that's on Big Andy...
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Great win today. But the offense and situational manage to continues to not be good.

What’s most troubling to me is the dynamics of the offense have been pretty much reduced to a more normal level. Mahomes has really reduced his willingness lately to throw down field, especially on third down. Without breaking everything down I can’t give numbers but I think we all see Mahomes being too willing to check it down and not throw beyond the sticks on third downs given the chance. The third down check down late to Hill comes to mind. He had two options wide open right in his field of vision but didn’t go there. Sometimes he has good pockets and sometimes not, but that was the case all last season too. We haven’t protected him well with any consistent so I don’t view that as the main culprit.

So what’s the issue? Reid encouraging him to “take what the defense gives you” too much? Reid calling plays that encourage short plays too much? Mahomes not reading the field correctly? Mahomes bailing from clean pockets too often?
the defense gave him wide open guys.
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The offensive line is a problem.. they got their shit pushed in every other play... But... **** the pats.. we won..
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Pretty much. Not sure how that's on Big Andy...
That last third down Kelce and Watkins were open.

Mahomes needs some film study.
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I don’t think this is all Reid, mahomes has happy feet, interior of the line has been awful. You seen him running backwards instead of stepping up in the pocket at times. He has 3 games to figure it out before the playoffs but confident he will.
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We won.
Exactly, we won! Why be so critical and try to point out areas that need improvement? So what if your eyes are telling you that we won’t make it far into the playoffs the way we’re playing; we won. No need for Reid to fix a darn thing. He should take the week off. We won. Hell, just the euphoria of the win will guide them into the playoffs and a SB win!
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Two wins in NE in three years.

Reid is special.
When Reid wins this game in January he’s special, bottom line. Reid has always been a great regular season coach, nobody can take that from him. But these games in January are the only stains on his record and he’s failed multiple times to get over the hump. This was a big win no doubt, but until he does it in the playoffs I’ll be skeptical.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:28 PM   #30
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Pat's not right. Too many injuries and the OL is sub par.
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