Chiefs Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken?

mr. tegu · 12-08-2019, 07:03 PM

Great win today. But the offense and situational manage to continues to not be good.

What’s most troubling to me is the dynamics of the offense have been pretty much reduced to a more normal level. Mahomes has really reduced his willingness lately to throw down field, especially on third down. Without breaking everything down I can’t give numbers but I think we all see Mahomes being too willing to check it down and not throw beyond the sticks on third downs given the chance. The third down check down late to Hill comes to mind. He had two options wide open right in his field of vision but didn’t go there. Sometimes he has good pockets and sometimes not, but that was the case all last season too. We haven’t protected him well with any consistent so I don’t view that as the main culprit.

So what’s the issue? Reid encouraging him to “take what the defense gives you” too much? Reid calling plays that encourage short plays too much? Mahomes not reading the field correctly? Mahomes bailing from clean pockets too often?

TLO · 12-08-2019, 07:05 PM

We just beat the Patriots.

In their house.

In December.

Simply Red · 12-08-2019, 07:21 PM

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We just beat the Patriots.

In their house.

In December.

what kind of dumb **** would down vote that?

Imon Yourside · 12-09-2019, 12:38 AM

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what kind of dumb **** would down vote that?

Patriotards

dj56dt58 · 12-08-2019, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO

We just beat the Patriots.

In their house.

In December.

Because of.

The defense.

mr. tegu · 12-08-2019, 07:05 PM

Well if his hand was more hurt than they let on then that certainly is a factor because I was expecting us to unleash the offense this week thinking we had been perhaps holding back lately.

Hammock Parties · 12-08-2019, 07:05 PM

Two wins in NE in three years.

Reid is special.

493rd · 12-08-2019, 08:22 PM

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Two wins in NE in three years.

Reid is special.

When Reid wins this game in January he’s special, bottom line. Reid has always been a great regular season coach, nobody can take that from him. But these games in January are the only stains on his record and he’s failed multiple times to get over the hump. This was a big win no doubt, but until he does it in the playoffs I’ll be skeptical.

jd1020 · 12-08-2019, 07:07 PM

I'm going to hope the offense is ugly because Mahomes isn't 100% but then I remember what happened in the playoffs vs the Colts and Titans. Reid is just a soft bitch when he gets a lead.

When the Patriots were running up the score on everyone when they went 16-0 Belichick's response was "stop us." Reid needs more of that attitude but its been 20 years, it's not coming.

TLO · 12-08-2019, 07:08 PM

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I'm going to hope the offense is ugly because Mahomes isn't 100% but then I remember what happened in the playoffs vs the Colts and Titans. Reid is just a soft bitch when he gets a lead.

When the Patriots were running up the score on everyone when they went 16-0 Belichick's response was "stop us." Reid needs more of that attitude but its been 20 years, it's not coming.

We won.

jd1020 · 12-08-2019, 07:09 PM

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We won.

That doesn't change how ugly the offense was in the 2nd half with a 2 score lead and the ball to start the half.

Simply Red · 12-08-2019, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO

We won.

again - what kind of dumb **** would down vote that?

TLO · 12-08-2019, 08:03 PM

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again - what kind of dumb **** would down vote that?

papi - whoever that is

modocsot · 12-08-2019, 08:22 PM

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We won.

Exactly, we won! Why be so critical and try to point out areas that need improvement? So what if your eyes are telling you that we won’t make it far into the playoffs the way we’re playing; we won. No need for Reid to fix a darn thing. He should take the week off. We won. Hell, just the euphoria of the win will guide them into the playoffs and a SB win!

BWillie · 12-08-2019, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I'm going to hope the offense is ugly because Mahomes isn't 100% but then I remember what happened in the playoffs vs the Colts and Titans. Reid is just a soft bitch when he gets a lead.

When the Patriots were running up the score on everyone when they went 16-0 Belichick's response was "stop us." Reid needs more of that attitude but its been 20 years, it's not coming.

Yes, it's frustrating. A schematic offensive genius. A clock management and tactical buffoon, at least at times.

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mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $1551300	Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken? Great win today. But the offense and situational manage to continues to not be good. What’s most troubling to me is the dynamics of the offense have been pretty much reduced to a more normal level. Mahomes has really reduced his willingness lately to throw down field, especially on third down. Without breaking everything down I can’t give numbers but I think we all see Mahomes being too willing to check it down and not throw beyond the sticks on third downs given the chance. The third down check down late to Hill comes to mind. He had two options wide open right in his field of vision but didn’t go there. Sometimes he has good pockets and sometimes not, but that was the case all last season too. We haven’t protected him well with any consistent so I don’t view that as the main culprit. So what’s the issue? Reid encouraging him to “take what the defense gives you” too much? Reid calling plays that encourage short plays too much? Mahomes not reading the field correctly? Mahomes bailing from clean pockets too often?
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mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $1551300	Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken? Well if his hand was more hurt than they let on then that certainly is a factor because I was expecting us to unleash the offense this week thinking we had been perhaps holding back lately.
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7692645	I'm going to hope the offense is ugly because Mahomes isn't 100% but then I remember what happened in the playoffs vs the Colts and Titans. Reid is just a soft bitch when he gets a lead. When the Patriots were running up the score on everyone when they went 16-0 Belichick's response was "stop us." Reid needs more of that attitude but its been 20 years, it's not coming.
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