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View Poll Results: Who is playing adequately or better within their role?
Allen Bailey 50 51.02%
Anthony Hitchens 2 2.04%
Breeland Speaks 7 7.14%
Chris Jones 65 66.33%
Dee Ford 75 76.53%
Derrick Nnadi 38 38.78%
Eric Murray 1 1.02%
Jarvis Jenkins 9 9.18%
Jordan Lucas 54 55.10%
Justin Houston 34 34.69%
Kendall Fuller 29 29.59%
Orlando Scandrick 37 37.76%
Reggie Ragland 0 0%
Ron Parker 6 6.12%
Steven Nelson 14 14.29%
Tanoh Kpassagnon 9 9.18%
Terrance Smith 3 3.06%
Xavier Williams 12 12.24%
None of these guys are playing adequately. 11 11.22%
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Old 10-14-2018, 11:45 PM   Topic Starter
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Which defensive players are performing adequately?

Poll to follow.

Relative to their assigned role, which defensive players are performing at or above a level that is to be reasonably expected?

(In other words, don't penalize a guy for being a backup. Consider just his performance on the field when he's playing.)

Note: I'm not including the following players who are not getting regular defensive snaps or are new to the team.

Ben Niemann
Charvarius Ward
Dorian O'Daniel
Eric Berry
Josh Shaw
Justin Hamilton
Leon McQuay
Nate Orchard
Tremon Smith
Frank Zombo

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Old 10-14-2018, 11:49 PM   #2
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Bailey, Jones, Scandrick and Ford I can live with.

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Old 10-15-2018, 02:31 AM   #4
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Old 10-14-2018, 11:51 PM   #5
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So what's the problem in the run game? Is it the NT, DE, LB?

All of the above?

Seems like most DL can at least make contact with the RB before the los. With us it doesn't even seem like our line makes any contact unless it's at least 5 yards ahead of the los.
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Old 10-14-2018, 11:53 PM   #6
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So what's the problem in the run game? Is it the NT, DE, LB?

All of the above?

Seems like most DL can at least make contact with the RB before the los. With us it doesn't even seem like our line makes any contact unless it's at least 5 yards ahead of the los.
LB and S aren't maintaining gap discipline or missing tackles.

Lucas had horrible gap control on the first series and let the RB get outside.
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Old 10-14-2018, 11:53 PM   #7
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So what's the problem in the run game? Is it the NT, DE, LB?

All of the above?

Seems like most DL can at least make contact with the RB before the los. With us it doesn't even seem like our LB make contact unless it's at least 5 yards ahead of the los.
I've seen us getting pushed around in three-man fronts, but I really feel like a major problem is that we're playing two-man fronts, with an expectation that Ragland and Hitchens can help out. So in essence, the other team runs and it's five offensive linemen against Allen Bailey and Chris Jones, because Ragland and Hitchens aren't even speed bumps.

So I blame a combination of the scheme and poor ILB play.

Even in three-man fronts it seems like Xavier Williams is getting pushed around. I feel like Nnadi is outplaying Xavier.
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The best player in the secondary was picked up off the scrap heap just before the season.

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Chris Jones has this problem if not trying for half the game.
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Old 10-14-2018, 11:55 PM   #10
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Where is the none of the above option?
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Where is the none of the above option?
It's right there at the bottom.

Or was this a rhetorical question?
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Old 10-14-2018, 11:57 PM   #12
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It's right there at the bottom.

Or was this a rhetorical question?
I found it and voted appropriately thanks. But yes rhetorical sounds good.
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Chris Jones has this problem if not trying for half the game.
I actually didn't vote for Chris Jones. It seems like I should, but he's AWOL on 99 percent of plays. The challenge, though, is that by design he's being double or triple teamed on every play because of that freaking two-man front.

All in all, I think the best players on our defense right now are:

1. Allen Bailey.
2. Orlando Scandrick
3. Dee Ford
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:29 AM   #14
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Chris Jones has this problem if not trying for half the game.
Thats not true. He just gets sloppy with his technique and relies on his athleticism too much at times.
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I voted none of them, because we can't do even the most basic of defensive functions.. like tackling someone.
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