Chiefs Give Erving Extension

[dlphg9]

According to 610

Wtf?

[Hoover]

I don't really have a problem with Fisher and LTD's contracts. They are what they are, Fisher is a little disapppointing as far as the draft capital we invested but his contract doesn't really bother me. I think the Chiefs deserve a lot of credit for the success they have had taking late round guys and turning them into legit NFL starters. LTD was a nice find, and while you may not like what we have to pay him now, you also have to account for the fact that besides his contract we only invested a 5th rounder in that guy. That success story allowed us to use higher pick on other positions. Now we are doing it with McKenzie and Boettger. If we hit on one of those its a huge success and only helps to rebuild that much quicker.

In addition to what a dude's cap number is, its just as important to under stand how all these contracts are slotted. If you look at the Chiefs OL contracts, its clear as day that we are nearing the day when we are going to have to invest in the oline with a high draft pick. I would rather spend one of ou two 2nd round picks on a olinemen next year than putting it off and be forced to use a first rounder in 2020.

The Chiefs Oline isn't sexy, but for what we are paying in contract and what we have invested in draft picks, its actually pretty damn good in regards to that level of investment. With a franchise QB now in house, it only makes sense to spend draft capital (like 2,3,4 round picks) on the oline than trying to address it in free agency. Fisher, Schwartz and LTD are the core, hopefully Mackinze or Boettger are diamonds in the rough, but I think we are going to need to draft a legit center next year. Frankly I would have loved to have gotten James Daniels in the 2nd round this year. We would have been set.

Year Player Amount
2018 Fisher 13,950,000
2018 Schwartz 7,700,000
2018 LTD 5,360,000
2018 Morse 1,486,890
2018 Devey 720,000
2018 Reiter 630,000
2018 Boettger 480,000
2018 Wylie 480,000
2018 McKenzie 517,736

Year Player Amount
2019 Fisher 13,150,000
2019 Schwartz 8,000,000
2019 LDT 8,253,000
2019 Boettger 570,000
2019 Wylie 570,000
2019 McKenzie 617,736


Year Player Amount
2020 Fisher 12,050,000
2020 Schwartz 8,000,000
2020 LTD 9,000,000
2020 Boettger 660,000
2020 McKenzie 707,236


Year Player Amount
2021 Fisher 11,500,000
2021 LTD 9,250,000
2021 McKenzie 797,736

Year Player Amount
2022 LTD 8,500,000

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

People are really upset about this? Really? It’s even backloaded to when the cap will grow by $20 million more too. This is not a lot of money at all and won’t affect our cap.

It will if they keep starting him and let him hit his playing time incentives.

Cam Erving will start for the Chiefs at left guard on Sunday against the Chargers and not Andrew Wylie, who is listed as the starter on the depth chart. Wylie said he would be the back up at both tackle positions instead.

— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) September 7, 2018

[The Franchise]

This ends with a nice play from Mahomes on 3rd and 2 but LOOK AT ERVING DECIDE HE'S HAD ENOUGH OF THIS CRAP. pic.twitter.com/gVqDKrJQ2p

— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) September 18, 2018

[kccrow]

One play doesn't make him good. Chiefs really struggled running in the A gaps the entire game. Best running plays were actually in the C gap to Schwartz's side. I will say, he's been better this year overall though, but that better has mostly been in pass pro. I'm surprised so far that he hasn't been the turnstile he's been for years. We'll see how it goes though.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by kccrow

One play doesn't make him good. Chiefs really struggled running in the A gaps the entire game. Best running plays were actually in the C gap to Schwartz's side. I will say, he's been better this year overall though, but that better has mostly been in pass pro. I'm surprised so far that he hasn't been the turnstile he's been for years. We'll see how it goes though.

Uh I don't know running at Casey isn't a good idea. I don't know why we are not running pitch plays and out side zones with the way our WR core clears out DBs

[Coach]

Originally Posted by kccrow

One play doesn't make him good. Chiefs really struggled running in the A gaps the entire game. Best running plays were actually in the C gap to Schwartz's side. I will say, he's been better this year overall though, but that better has mostly been in pass pro. I'm surprised so far that he hasn't been the turnstile he's been for years. We'll see how it goes though.

Steeler's Run D at the A/B Gaps are strong. They're weak on the C and D's. KC kept trying to run on the A/B Gaps, which they were not successful, until late in the 4th quarter when the Steeler's D was already gassed.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Uh I don't know running at Casey isn't a good idea. I don't know why we are not running pitch plays and out side zones with the way our WR core clears out DBs

I'm expecting a lot more swing passes to Hunt coming up. The defenses have been keying on him so far and with how much Mahomes is pushing the ball I can see the coverage drifting more backwards and creating the open guy to be Hunt in the open field, which is a good thing.

I think his lack of success thus far has been more about defenses looking to neutralize him, and a big part of Mahomes success is the fact he's recognizing this and adjusting his formation to take advantage of matchups created by this.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056

I'm expecting a lot more swing passes to Hunt coming up. The defenses have been keying on him so far and with how much Mahomes is pushing the ball I can see the coverage drifting more backwards and creating the open guy to be Hunt in the open field, which is a good thing.

I think his lack of success thus far has been more about defenses looking to neutralize him, and a big part of Mahomes success is the fact he's recognizing this and adjusting his formation to take advantage of matchups created by this.

And I would anticipate at some point, defenses are going to have to realize that they can't stack the box anymore due to the dynamic QB. Eventually, they're going to have to respect the passing game and back off.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Originally Posted by Coach

And I would anticipate at some point, defenses are going to have to realize that they can't stack the box anymore due to the dynamic QB. Eventually, they're going to have to respect the passing game and back off.

Once that happens, I want to audible into a single back formation from empty (essentially the opposite of what we've been doing) and take advantage of their smaller lineups whenever teams are forced to play in a Quarter defense to defend against our 5-wide set.


The only team that I think can go heads up with us is Jax. Minnesota and Phillys front 7 are good but their secondaries can be exposed by our guys imo and LAR doesn't have the LBs or safeties to handle Kelce and Hunt.

Mexico City should be a fun one.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056

Once that happens, I want to audible into a single back formation from empty (essentially the opposite of what we've been doing) and take advantage of their smaller lineups whenever teams are forced to play in a Quarter defense to defend against our 5-wide set.


The only team that I think can go heads up with us is Jax. Minnesota and Phillys front 7 are good but their secondaries can be exposed by our guys imo and LAR doesn't have the LBs or safeties to handle Kelce and Hunt.

Mexico City should be a fun one.

What I was pleasantly surprised was the shifting was being done against the Steelers game. I could be wrong here, but I couldn't recall seeing that for quite some time on a consistent basis in a game. Kind of felt like the Coryell offense there for a few moments.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Originally Posted by Coach

What I was pleasantly surprised was the shifting was being done against the Steelers game. I could be wrong here, but I couldn't recall seeing that for quite some time on a consistent basis in a game. Kind of felt like the Coryell offense there for a few moments.

I can see the resemblance, there hasn't been this much of a vertical presence in a while. It looks like Pat is being taught to read from high-to-low with there being different levels tested in each passing play and he's making the correct choice more often than not.

Like you mentioned he's become very active in pre-snap adjustments, I'd say he's doing it at the same frequency as Alex did (which has always been considered one of his biggest strengths) and it's only his 3rd start. I have no clue what his ceiling is at this point.

Like I know people say shit like "limitless potential", but seriously the kid has 10 TDs in 2 games against two of our most vital opponents. Especially with him being in this offense, the O/U for his TD total has to be like 46 right? Is that too cautious? His TD% is currently 18.2% which is more than twice Carson Wentz's last year (7.5%) when he was coasting to a MVP. I know, sample size and all that but **** that's wild.