Football Brett Bielema to Arkansas? - Page 4

NewChief · 12-04-2012, 01:20 PM

This is the heavy, heavy rumor right now. I know next to nothing about this guy, but my initial reaction is pretty meh.

8-5 in the B1G?

Folks that follow the B1G, tell me something about him... hopefully something encouraging.

the Talking Can · 12-04-2012, 02:26 PM

weird

other than $, not sure this is a good move for either school

DJ's left nut · 12-04-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

The theory down here, which I tend to favor, is that Arkansas needs a "niche" that doesn't overlap with the other SEC West teams. If we're trying to compete in recruiting and such in those areas in which they (Alabama and LSU) already excel, we're going to lose out. However, if we become known for our great receivers and QBs, then we're distinct from our competitors and may draw some of those 4-5 stars at those positions. We need our own distinct identity separate from the rest of the West, otherwise we're doomed to always be below the other programs.

That's my hope with Mizzou. We're not going to 'outBama' Alabama, we're going to have to beat them some other way.

For Mizzou, it should be focusing in high-end QB talent and skill players and utilizing rapidly developing offensive plays to help neutralize the massive advantages that Alabama, LSU, etc... are likely to have in the trenches.

That's why I hope Mizzou sticks with the spread - we need to zig while the traditional powers zag. We'll never be an annual championship contender like that, but that wasn't going to happen anyway. What it could allow us to do is what we did in Daniel's Junior year or even what Arky did from 2010-2011. Catch the right QB and the right mix of skill position players and maybe you'll get a nice 2-4 year run where you're running with the big dogs and are a break here and there from being in the championship equation.

Try to go the 'conventional' route in the SEC and you're likely to just be another Ol' Miss.

htismaqe · 12-04-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

The theory down here, which I tend to favor, is that Arkansas needs a "niche" that doesn't overlap with the other SEC West teams. If we're trying to compete in recruiting and such in those areas in which they (Alabama and LSU) already excel, we're going to lose out. However, if we become known for our great receivers and QBs, then we're distinct from our competitors and may draw some of those 4-5 stars at those positions. We need our own distinct identity separate from the rest of the West, otherwise we're doomed to always be below the other programs.

That's the way I see it.

This appears to be an attempt to "match" Alabama and LSU. What it will likely end up being is that Arkansas is a somewhat lesser copy of the two.

**Bearcat** · 12-04-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan

What is it with that University and conservative football

...and basketball, and hockey.

If you asked someone in Madison what year it is, I wonder what the answer would be..

big nasty kcnut · 12-04-2012, 03:10 PM

He's a good coach that know how to win. You want something flashy get a loser like spurrier.

displacedinMN · 12-04-2012, 04:10 PM

BB was hand picked to be the replacement for Alverez. As mentioned-worked and played under great people. Fry, Snyder, Alverez.

He is much hated by non-Wisconsin fans. He has no problem dumping 70 on Indiana but then turns around and gets killed in the Rose Bowl by TCU.

He can recruit to Wisky, many want to go there, and has a great fan base.

Maybe is the type that figures been there, done that and wants a new challenge. Typical in coaches.

I don't see Ark as a better move. Warmer- and the exposure of the SEC. Maybe angling for a move to the NFL in 3 years.

Bewbies · 12-04-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a Big 10 versus SEC thought. I was saying moving to Arkansas is a step down. Yes, it's the SEC, and, yes, that's a big deal, but the school itself is not exactly a football power. Going to be up to him to try to turn them into one. But basically he's going from a place where he was always in the hunt for a conference championship (and a BCS bid...) to a school where he's just...not.

But there are reasons to do that, as i said. Better pay. Better facilities. No Barry Alvarez as AD.

And it could work...

People don't buy this if they're not down south, but the Arkansas job is one of the tops in the whole country. They have a rabid fan base, crazy resources, and play in the best conference in the nation.

I'm a UGA fan, and I'd honestly put Arkansas a bit below UF/Bama/LSU, probably even with UGA and Tennessee. I'll give you OSU/Michigan/USC as maybe the only couple that jump in front of that group. Maybe, and I mean maybe, you can throw Texas in there too.

Bewbies · 12-04-2012, 04:20 PM

I think if he wasn't such a piece of shit Petrino would have won a national championship or two for the Hogs.

NewChief · 12-04-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I think if he wasn't such a piece of shit Petrino would have won a national championship or two for the Hogs.

I agree that we were headed in te right direction which is one reason that whole deal hurts so bad. The chance of us catching lightning in a bottle again like we did with Petrino is slim.

Bewbies · 12-04-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

I agree that we were headed in te right direction which is one reason that whole deal hurts so bad. The chance of us catching lightning in a bottle again like we did with Petrino is slim.

Sometimes when you dance with the devil you get burned I guess.

BB will be a winner down there though. Saban will be gone soon, and then the SECW is wide open again...

LiveSteam · 12-04-2012, 04:26 PM

When Bret shows up with a fat lip & a black eye. you can be sure that it was Barry Alvarez that kicked his ass.

NewChief · 12-04-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

Sometimes when you dance with the devil you get burned I guess.

BB will be a winner down there though. Saban will be gone soon, and then the SECW is wide open again...

I really hope so as far as BB.

displacedinMN · 12-04-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam

When Bret shows up with a fat lip & a black eye. you can be sure that it was Barry Alvarez that kicked his ass.

htismaqe · 12-04-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

People don't buy this if they're not down south, but the Arkansas job is one of the tops in the whole country. They have a rabid fan base, crazy resources, and play in the best conference in the nation.

I'm a UGA fan, and I'd honestly put Arkansas a bit below UF/Bama/LSU, probably even with UGA and Tennessee. I'll give you OSU/Michigan/USC as maybe the only couple that jump in front of that group. Maybe, and I mean maybe, you can throw Texas in there too.

Sorry I had to...

NewChief · 12-04-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Sorry I had to...

If you never need to explain to someone the point where rabid turns to creepily batshit nuts, that's the video. Online Arkansas fans hate Liz now.

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displacedinMN Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $11161	BB was hand picked to be the replacement for Alverez. As mentioned-worked and played under great people. Fry, Snyder, Alverez. He is much hated by non-Wisconsin fans. He has no problem dumping 70 on Indiana but then turns around and gets killed in the Rose Bowl by TCU. He can recruit to Wisky, many want to go there, and has a great fan base. Maybe is the type that figures been there, done that and wants a new challenge. Typical in coaches. I don't see Ark as a better move. Warmer- and the exposure of the SEC. Maybe angling for a move to the NFL in 3 years. __________________ Pic by bonekrusher http://weather.rms.rdale.org/
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