Offense/Defense (Philosophy based)

[Sorter]

We've done several "If you were the GM/HC etc." threads here. However, I'm curious to see what kind of base offensive or defensive philosophies you would choose to try and design the Chiefs with. I know a majority will and should chose to utilize a 1-ga principle defensively but am curious as to the other aspects.

Personally, I would hire coaches to install a 1-gap Phillips based 3-4. While I love the fire-zone philosophies, I think that they require even more athletic players than we have currently to run at an elite level constantly and would prefer man-coverage rather than zone on downs/scenarios that dictate a pass. In the future, I would love to be able to incorporate these concepts once personnel has been adjusted accordingly.

Offensively, it would depend on the QB we draft. If Barkley, I'm hiring an OC who is based in the WCO and a HC that understands (generally) those philosophies, even if it is a defensive minded coach. Additionally, I would want him to emphasize YAC and back shoulder throws consistently.

If Smith or Wilson, I would likely hire someone who continues with a zone-based blocking system (as I feel it fits our smaller, athletic OL better and our backs in Charles/Cyrus better in a 1-cut philosophy). The OC would also utilize PA consistently (via bootlegs off of our stretch play) and would encourage a deeper approach in terms of route concepts, specifically attacking the seams off of motion with our WRs/TEs and and the corners of the field (corners/deep outs, back shoulder throws).


I'm curious to see what you all would like to have as there are several talented minds here, IMO.

[bobbything]

Offensively, I would honestly incorporate many elements of the Run and Shoot. Specifically utilizing the choice routes and pre-snap motions. I would find the best-suited QB for this and essentially allow him to run the offense. Ideally, I'd like a big RB, but this isn't completely necessary.

Since this requires an extremely intelligent quarterback who must be in constant harmony with his receivers, I can immediately eliminate Matt Cassel from my search.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by bobbything

Offensively, I would honestly incorporate many elements of the Run and Shoot. Specifically utilizing the choice routes and pre-snap motions. I would find the best-suited QB for this and essentially allow him to run the offense. Ideally, I'd like a big RB, but this isn't completely necessary.

Since this requires an extremely intelligent quarterback who must be in constant harmony with his receivers, I can immediately eliminate Matt Cassel from my search.

They've tried all that already. The problem is Cassel. He makes the wrong reads and his balls don't get out in time and have no zip. Did you see how many 12-15yd deep outs where almost picked vs the steelers?

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

They've tried all that already. The problem is Cassel. He makes the wrong reads and his balls don't get out in time and have no zip. Did you see how many 12-15yd deep outs where almost picked vs the steelers?

Oh, I'm not talking about doing it with this Chiefs team. I thought this was a hypothetical moving forward. As I said, you need a smart, accurate quarterback. This doesn't really describe Matt Cassel.

[whoman69]

I would have a more balanced philosophy that would include ball control to keep my defense fresh. I would have both shotgun and under the center available for the QB. I would mix play action passes in with straight passing situations. I incorporate both 2 TE and fullback sets.

Defensively I would be more aggressive in getting the other teams to 3 and out situations with a 3-4 base defense. I would have at least 4 pass rushers on every passing down.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by bobbything

Oh, I'm not talking about doing it with this Chiefs team. I thought this was a hypothetical moving forward. As I said, you need a smart, accurate quarterback. This doesn't really describe Matt Cassel.

Teams nowadays take the best from all those offensive philosophies. This holds true for KC, as most of us have seen Cassel botch simple passing route combo reads. Most of our passing attack is west coast based.. most of the time no read. Cassel is notorious for being locked in to a receiver once he see's the defense pre snap alignment.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Well, I'd take whatever Marty/Cowher were doing back in the day defensively, and attach the dink and dunk WCO to the nearest tree, burn it with a nuclear-powered flamethrower, and nevar look back.

Also, any time the HC called a screen, I would incorporate a device similar to a dog shock collar which would be attached to his balls, and operated remotely from the stands by a midget in a little red and gold leprachaun outfit who would simulataneously dance a happy little jig while pushing the button repeatedly.

Hope that helps.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by bobbything

Oh, I'm not talking about doing it with this Chiefs team. I thought this was a hypothetical moving forward. As I said, you need a smart, accurate quarterback. This doesn't really describe Matt Cassel.

It most certainly is.

[Dayze]

Deadly Offense.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Dayze

Deadly Offense.

What about Ninja Offense?

[Dayze]

I'd take it.

[keg in kc]

I want aggressive on both sides of the ball. I don't really care what the specific system is on offense, but I want a scheme that utilizes motions and shifting to create mismatches and is balanced in terms of never knowing what's coming re: run and pass. Although, technically, by "balanced" I mean throws a bit more than runs. I do NOT want a run-based offense. Defensively I'd stay 3-4, but move out of the passive philosophy and have an attacking front seven. The risk means more potential for mistakes and big plays, but I'll take that as opposed to getting nickel and dimed to death by patient offenses. And we've been giving up big plays for years anyway.

I'm just sick of passive football, in general. We need to take it to other teams, rather than react to what they do.

[petegz28]

Vermeil offense...Marty defense

[Dayze]

I truly hate the 3-4.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8;9117762[B

]They don't strictly play 2-gap every play. They mix in 1-gap over/under philosophies as well as fire-zone. [/b]I personally don't think they are aggressive enough and should blitz more often. Dropping guys like Belcher and Houston into zone coverage is a huge mistake. Shit, I've seen them dropping Tamba into coverage and my mind is blown.

Actually, the Chiefs are one of the few teams that rarely switch to an over/under in their base front. Additionally, fire-zone concepts are not typically used. When Crennel does decide to send more than 4, we are typically playing man-coverage.

Everything else though I agree with.

[scott free]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Actually, the Chiefs are one of the few teams that rarely switch to an over/under in their base front. Additionally, fire-zone concepts are not typically used. When Crennel does decide to send more than 4, we are typically playing man-coverage.

Everything else though I agree with.

Honest question...

How in the blue hell did a girl your age ever become so football intelligent?

Its been bugging the shit out of me for days, i've never seen a girl with such informed takes.

You need to apply for a pr job with some college or pro team.