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**BigRedChief** · 05-14-2013, 03:05 PM

Remodeling the new home. Had popcorn ceilings throughout the house. We have had the popcorn ceilings taken out by professionals.

The pros put a thin layer of drywall mud on the ceiling. We have put two coats of primer on the ceiling. My wife wants to use latex high gloss enamel paint on the ceilings. We have done two coats.

The problem is that we can see the rolling of the paint marks on the ceiling.

Question for the Planet.............

What do I need to use or do to not have the rolling marks? Surely two coats of primer and two coats of paint should get the job done? What say you? Rep with my big rep stick for helpful tips advise.

On a side note this is my room to do with what I want. The doors lead to the backyard with a pool, jacuzzi, the waterfront of the ocean and the boat dock. The wife suggested astroturf on the floor with a football field painted on it. Paint it red put up my Chiefs "stuff". Seems "routine" to me. Any unique ideas would be appreciated and hit with my big rep stick.

Bump · 05-14-2013, 03:42 PM

I've been remodeling the downstairs of my home. I did a textured ceiling though because it was already so ****ed up and peeled that I thought it would be too much effort getting it flattened out.

But use flat paint, it's supposed to help hide imperfections and is recommended for ceilings.

this is my finished product for the pantry ceiling

as you can see I still have noticable lines from where the cracks were. But I'm not too much of an expert, everything is trial and error with me lol. With thorough google research first.

Bump · 05-14-2013, 03:44 PM

I have no ****ing clue why I didnt think to do before pics. But here is a closet. Before I was done with it, you were SCARED to go in there. It was ****ing NASTY disgusting.

post hoarders

**BigRedChief** · 05-14-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois

No Sistine Chapel references???

made it to post #8.

**TrebMaxx** · 05-14-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Wifes choice and she knew it would be difficult.

Yeah, I know! Gotta keep momma happy. Still though, should of probably had the ceiling done knock down style and painted with flat white. The only thing that might work with the high gloss is using a sprayer or professional painter. JMHO.

Johnny Vegas · 05-14-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

How do you paint in an "X" and still cover the whole area?

its really just easiest way to explain the motion you should go for. basically you are dancing in a circle painting 'x's till you fill the voids. I push the roller north and pull back east then push west and pull back north and push south and pull back west. if that makes any sense.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-14-2013, 03:51 PM

didn't read others posts, so apologize for Q but:

A) dont use gloss paint on ceilings, unless MAYBE its in the kitchen or bathroom

B) roller marks shouldnt be a problem...go get a 3 pack of a high quality 1/2 inch or 3/4 nap roller .....

after the primer is dry you should really only need 1 coat if it is good paint, since you primed it but SURELY you wouldnt have roller marks if you use a good roller and good paint properly...

heres how you do it:

1) make a large V with your roller, thicker nap = more paint = bigger V...but like 2 feet by 2 feet is good for starters

2 ) fill in the V....(derp!) (TO MAKE A SQUARE ..DURP) like the top two points of the V are the top corners and the bottom point is in the middle of the bottom line

3) 'reload' the roller when the V is done and filled in, so you will assure that every V is about the same coat of paint (thick)

4) maKe the next V barely overlapping

5)keep making / FILLING IN V's till out of beer / walls / ceiling

6)throw away rollers that are used or keep maybe 1 day in refridgerator for next day in plastic bag, wet...not worth the time or energy to wash them PROPERLY AND DRY THEM IMO

best of luck man

ps this method will work for any gloss as well

stevieray · 05-14-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

You should do it all sistine chapel style.

you rang?

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-14-2013, 04:02 PM

**BigRedChief** · 05-14-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

you rang?

Florida is beautiful this time of the year StevieRay...................

Halfcan · 05-14-2013, 04:47 PM

I actually like a semi gloss on the ceilings- as it ages they seem to hold up better and are scrubable in case your budy decides to shake a beer and open it-lol But the drawback it that is does show imperfections. Unless it is a huge water spot-most people will never even look at the ceiling. The Semi will brighten the room as well.

PRIEST · 05-14-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

didn't read others posts, so apologize for Q but:

A) dont use gloss paint on ceilings, unless MAYBE its in the kitchen or bathroom

B) roller marks shouldnt be a problem...go get a 3 pack of a high quality 1/2 inch or 3/4 nap roller .....

after the primer is dry you should really only need 1 coat if it is good paint, since you primed it but SURELY you wouldnt have roller marks if you use a good roller and good paint properly...

heres how you do it:

1) make a large V with your roller, thicker nap = more paint = bigger V...but like 2 feet by 2 feet is good for starters

2 ) fill in the V....(derp!) (TO MAKE A SQUARE ..DURP) like the top two points of the V are the top corners and the bottom point is in the middle of the bottom line

3) 'reload' the roller when the V is done and filled in, so you will assure that every V is about the same coat of paint (thick)

4) maKe the next V barely overlapping

5)keep making / FILLING IN V's till out of beer / walls / ceiling

6)throw away rollers that are used or keep maybe 1 day in refridgerator for next day in plastic bag, wet...not worth the time or energy to wash them PROPERLY AND DRY THEM IMO

best of luck man

ps this method will work for any gloss as well

This

Do not let roller run out of material , a dry roller will screw it up for sure.

Halfcan · 05-14-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

That rocks!!

redsurfer11 · 05-14-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Wifes choice and she knew it would be difficult.

In the future. Most flat paints won't stick well to the gloss painted areas.

Zebedee DuBois · 05-14-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

made it to post #8.

Sincere Apologies.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 05-14-2013, 06:11 PM

I'm not an expert but I've painted lots and lots of ceilings and walls and everything else (20 rental properties), I normally go to walmart and buy the cans of paint labeled "Ceiling paint" and just apply that . Never remember seeing any roller stripes. And I use the left over on the walls, cabinets , carpet, whatever !

05-14-2013, 03:05 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3119627 VARSITY	Painting ceilings. Need some help/advise Remodeling the new home. Had popcorn ceilings throughout the house. We have had the popcorn ceilings taken out by professionals. The pros put a thin layer of drywall mud on the ceiling. We have put two coats of primer on the ceiling. My wife wants to use latex high gloss enamel paint on the ceilings. We have done two coats. The problem is that we can see the rolling of the paint marks on the ceiling. Question for the Planet............. What do I need to use or do to not have the rolling marks? Surely two coats of primer and two coats of paint should get the job done? What say you? Rep with my big rep stick for helpful tips advise. On a side note this is my room to do with what I want. The doors lead to the backyard with a pool, jacuzzi, the waterfront of the ocean and the boat dock. The wife suggested astroturf on the floor with a football field painted on it. Paint it red put up my Chiefs "stuff". Seems "routine" to me. Any unique ideas would be appreciated and hit with my big rep stick.
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05-14-2013, 03:42 PM	#16
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $2215105	I've been remodeling the downstairs of my home. I did a textured ceiling though because it was already so ****ed up and peeled that I thought it would be too much effort getting it flattened out. But use flat paint, it's supposed to help hide imperfections and is recommended for ceilings. this is my finished product for the pantry ceiling as you can see I still have noticable lines from where the cracks were. But I'm not too much of an expert, everything is trial and error with me lol. With thorough google research first. __________________
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05-14-2013, 03:44 PM	#17
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $2215105	I have no **ing clue why I didnt think to do before pics. But here is a closet. Before I was done with it, you were SCARED to go in there. It was **ing NASTY disgusting. post hoarders __________________
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05-14-2013, 03:51 PM	#21
Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $2937556	didn't read others posts, so apologize for Q but: A) dont use gloss paint on ceilings, unless MAYBE its in the kitchen or bathroom B) roller marks shouldnt be a problem...go get a 3 pack of a high quality 1/2 inch or 3/4 nap roller ..... after the primer is dry you should really only need 1 coat if it is good paint, since you primed it but SURELY you wouldnt have roller marks if you use a good roller and good paint properly... heres how you do it: 1) make a large V with your roller, thicker nap = more paint = bigger V...but like 2 feet by 2 feet is good for starters 2 ) fill in the V....(derp!) (TO MAKE A SQUARE ..DURP) like the top two points of the V are the top corners and the bottom point is in the middle of the bottom line 3) 'reload' the roller when the V is done and filled in, so you will assure that every V is about the same coat of paint (thick) 4) maKe the next V barely overlapping 5)keep making / FILLING IN V's till out of beer / walls / ceiling 6)throw away rollers that are used or keep maybe 1 day in refridgerator for next day in plastic bag, wet...not worth the time or energy to wash them PROPERLY AND DRY THEM IMO best of luck man ps this method will work for any gloss as well __________________ ---- 2018 Adopt-A-Chief : Chris Conley 2017 Adopt-A-Chief : FRANK ZOMBO Click here-->*The Holy Chiefsplanet Lexicon ** Last edited by Ming the Merciless; 05-14-2013 at 03:57 PM..
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	I actually like a semi gloss on the ceilings- as it ages they seem to hold up better and are scrubable in case your budy decides to shake a beer and open it-lol But the drawback it that is does show imperfections. Unless it is a huge water spot-most people will never even look at the ceiling. The Semi will brighten the room as well.
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05-14-2013, 06:11 PM	#30
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1680477	I'm not an expert but I've painted lots and lots of ceilings and walls and everything else (20 rental properties), I normally go to walmart and buy the cans of paint labeled "Ceiling paint" and just apply that . Never remember seeing any roller stripes. And I use the left over on the walls, cabinets , carpet, whatever !
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