Chiefs Chiefs Greats - Page 4

UK_Chief · 10-24-2014, 02:19 AM

Been a fan since early 2000s so my Chiefs greats are fairly recent (Priest, Shields, Roaf, Gonzalez etc). So two questions:

1) Who are your all time Chiefs players that you will always remember as the best?

2) Which players from the current or last few seasons will be considered as an all time Chiefs great? (1 obvious one!!!)

Otter · 10-25-2014, 02:24 AM

I'll throw Donnie Edwards into the mix. Sure he went to a division rival but he was one of my favorite players while playing for the Chiefs.

**J Diddy** · 10-25-2014, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

I'll throw Donnie Edwards into the mix. Sure he went to a division rival but he was one of my favorite players while playing for the Chiefs.

Donnie's nickname should be the tick because he latched on and then got carried around for weeks.

I liked Donnie but no way is he a great.

**J Diddy** · 10-25-2014, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

k I loved Neil smith, yeah I know he sold out( forced out) but that ****ing flinch he would do to pull offenses of the line I loved
that whole D is one of my all time fave
smith, DT, salemua, hasty, tongue, warfield, even albert lewis ( also a sellout)
marty kept it within 7 those ****ers would win it in the 4th somehow

that's how I remember the 90's
and I always will, true or not

Can't blame Neil Smith. He was forced out, it was either him or DT and they chose DT.

Seems that they should have tried harder.

**J Diddy** · 10-25-2014, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

Trent Green and Derrick Thomas.

Derrick Johnson will be one when he's gone.

Trent Green was the man.

**J Diddy** · 10-25-2014, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Mark McMillan

Dude Mighty Mouse kicked some ass, albeit for a season, but he did kick some ass.

Mojo Jojo · 10-25-2014, 05:26 AM

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The older the more I feel that we really tend to overrate Derrick Thomas. He was a great football player and he did the most important thing a defender can do, but he was legitimately bad at every other aspect of playing defense. He couldn't cover worth a damn and he was a terrible, terrible run defender.

Looking back at the 1994 AFCCG, watching the Bills run the same counter trey at him over and over and watching him **** up every time to the point where Marty had to bench him in the biggest game of his life just makes it hard for me view him as positively as many others do.

I still think the best Chief I ever saw put on the uniform is Gonzalez. Yes, he was somewhat one dimensional, but he eventually became a passable blocker. There also hasn't yet been a human being who could adequately defend him on a football field. In true Chiefs fashion, though, if they have a definitive GOAT at a position, it's TE.

I'm also perturbed by the national love that Ogden received over Roaf, who was a superior football player on far worse teams. The two played in the same era, so you can't use time as an excuse. Ogden got his ass legitimately whipped by Dwight Freeney. Roaf ate him for lunch. I don't know of anyone who ever gave him trouble.

If you have two great players and the first struggles mightily against their matchup and the second never struggled against anyone while dominating the one guy that gave the other great player fits, how can you say that the first is better than the second (as the HOF vote and others have suggested)?

Great post! At best DT is the third best LB in Chiefs history.

Otter · 10-25-2014, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Donnie's nickname should be the tick because he latched on and then got carried around for weeks.

I liked Donnie but no way is he a great.

Think Donnie was a DB trapped in an LB body. If not by body at least by assignment. Still remember when he intercepted a pass, he had a lot of INTs for a LB, and right before he went down and was officially tackled he lateralled to Jerome Woods who took ran it back for a TD unless I'm mistaken. I do know the latteral payed off.

He had a Billy the Kid way of playing about him that I liked.

Otter · 10-25-2014, 05:55 AM

As far as Blackledge being drafted by the Chiefs I"m pretty certain that was a two way situation. Chiefs don't have a good, wel lets face it, just plain horrible history of developing QBs.

Not saying he wouldn't have done better if he was drafted by San Fran or Green Bay but the Chiefs have always had thier priorties elseware. Pretty sure I would have said "oh shit" and put on a big smile as well.

ThatRaceCardGuy · 10-25-2014, 07:57 AM

Well. ..it ain't that broke back kicker that shall never be named..lol

milkman · 10-25-2014, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Donnie's nickname should be the tick because he latched on and then got carried around for weeks.

I liked Donnie but no way is he a great.

Donnie shoulda been a Cowboy.

He rode the back of ball carriers like horses.

scho63 · 10-25-2014, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

Bobby Bell, Willie Lanier, Buck Buchanan...Three of the greatest if not the greatest players at their positions in the history of Pro Football (not just Chiefs, all of Pro Football)

Hard not to love these guys when you are a long time fan and I'll add Johnny Robinson, Ed Podolak and Jerrel "Coffin Corner" Wilson to this list.

For more modern guys my favorite ten in no order:
1. Trent Green
2. Lake Dawson
3. Dante Hall
4. Derrick Thomas and Derrick Johnson- the Derrick combo
5. Deron Cherry and Kevin Ross combo
6. James Hasty
7. Tamarick Vanover
8. Priest Holmes
9. Neil Smith
10. Gary Barbaro

Delaney37 · 10-25-2014, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

OK, the usual suspects have already been named.

Willie Lanier was, and still is, my favorite player ever.
Bobby Bell is almost certainly the greatest ever, though.

The one guy who might not get mentioned, however, is Jim Tyrer.

He was widely considered the best LT to have ever played the game when he retired, but his murder/suicide killed any chance that he would get into the HOF where he belongs.

Given what we've learned about concussions and CTE over the last few years, they should reconsider his canidacy.

I would add to that LG Ed Budde. Totally agree about Jim Tyrer.

Delaney37 · 10-25-2014, 08:30 AM

Another I'd add that I haven't seen mentioned yet is Stephone Paige. I'll never forget the game against the Chargers where he had 309 receiving yards.

milkman · 10-25-2014, 08:35 AM

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Another I'd add that I haven't seen mentioned yet is Stephone Paige. I'll never forget the game against the Chargers where he had 309 receiving yards.

That guy was easily the second best receiver that has ever worn the Chiefs uniform.

One more.

Emmit Thomas, easily the best corner.

milkman · 10-25-2014, 08:37 AM

I just can't put Ed Podolak in the list.

He was a solid player, with an all time great game.

But he just shouldn't be in the converstion of all time greats.

10-24-2014, 02:19 AM
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