Something of a moral dilemma

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by cdcox

The bigger question is, will this guy be micromanaging you (telling you what to do and how to do it) once you take over the store? If so, I'd be polishing my resume.

If it is 7 more months of dealing with this guy, you can expect a new "test" like this every week or two. You have to decide if you can deal with that to get the promotion you want.

Nah, Boss will be gone. Ive been trained specifically for it. It was Boss' out because he hates where he lives. Wants that transfer out, and has his replacement ready as DM requested. He could transfer out sooner than that, but once he's gone, I run the show for better or worse. Ill answer to the DM, and the RM as he does now.

Ive worked with him for about 3 years now. He can be a really great person. Funny, great guy to have a beer with outside of work, but definitely has a selfish/lazy streak that shows up. If he doesn't feel like working, we're going to be picking up the slack one way or another.

Even if I could somehow save Joe's job for now, Boss would be furious about it because "he lost". Joe would then be under so much scrutiny that one mistake could be the end of him. As of now, he hasn't done anything to lose his job, save for making a few statements that pissed off the Boss during a session where Boss was trying to ream his ass for things not getting done fast enough.

He said that if he could get some help between Boss' sessions of Candy Crush in the back, that things might get done a lot faster since there were only two of them in the building.

Or if he stayed and worked his entire shift instead of constantly leaving early. True shit, that just pissed him off.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Nah, Boss will be gone. Ive been trained specifically for it. It was Boss' out because he hates where he lives. Wants that transfer out, and has his replacement ready as DM requested. He could transfer out sooner than that, but once he's gone, I run the show for better or worse. Ill answer to the DM, and the RM as he does now.

Ive worked with him for about 3 years now. He can be a really great person. Funny, great guy to have a beer with outside of work, but definitely has a selfish/lazy streak that shows up. If he doesn't feel like working, we're going to be picking up the slack one way or another.

Even if I could somehow save Joe's job for now, Boss would be furious about it because "he lost". Joe would then be under so much scrutiny that one mistake could be the end of him. As of now, he hasn't done anything to lose his job, save for making a few statements that pissed off the Boss during a session where Boss was trying to ream his ass for things not getting done fast enough.

He said that if he could get some help between Boss' sessions of Candy Crush in the back, that things might get done a lot faster since there were only two of them in the building.

Or if he stayed and worked his entire shift instead of constantly leaving early. True shit, that just pissed him off.

Save Joe's phone number. Call him in June and offer him a job.

[Aries Walker]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Save Joe's phone number. Call him in June and offer him a job.

This is the best advice I've seen in this thread.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Give me the boss's number. I'm gonna' have some fun with that prick.

[LoneWolf]

Was Joe calling out the manager to his face or behind his back and his comments got back to the manager?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I worked for a retail boss once. Laziest sack of shit I ever saw. Of course, the second man down busted double the ass to make up for it because he wanted that store.

[Halfcan]

Sure is a lot of drama for a Dominoes pizza?

I would tell the boss to go **** himself and start looking for a better job.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Once told that boss a little story relayed to me from another friend who worked in retail about a store manager getting shit-canned by the DM for working less than 20 hours a week while having his subordinates do all the heavy lifting in his absence.

He didn't like that story.

[LoneWolf]

It's not normally a very smart move to call your boss lazy to his face, especially when being asked to get something done. At many companies this would be considered insubordination and a friable offense.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

It's not normally a very smart move to call your boss lazy to his face, especially when being asked to get something done. At many companies this would be considered insubordination and a friable offense.

I can agree with this, but sometimes a spade is a spade. This guy has gotten as far as he has by promoting fear and intimidation in the work place. That is how he is getting his numbers, guaranteed. All it takes is one person to start the stand; the rest will follow.

[mr. tegu]

Does your boss think you guys are buddies? If so, he may not think he is asking you to do anything that bad.

Also, it sounds like you only verbally expressed your disagreement about firing him over the phone, not firing him in general. If your main concern was the act of firing him at all, that should have been what you expressed, not the whole phone thing. For all you know there is more to it and he deserves to be fired so if you say you aren't sure he should be fired perhaps your boss could explain why he should be fired.

Then if its still clear he has to be fired and that there isn't a great reason beyond what you described, say you think that it should wait until after the holidays.

[mdchiefsfan]

To add: you do realize that by law a company as the right to interview and reclaim any lost assets that occurred as a result of negligent behavior from one of their associates, right?

I have been doing this for over 8 year now for two separate companies and have gotten quite an abundant amount of judicial convictions in my time, none of which have landed me in trouble with any of my HR Depts.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

To add: you do realize that by law a company as the right to interview and reclaim any lost assets that occurred as a result of negligent behavior from one of their associates, right?

I have been doing this for over 8 year now for two separate companies and have gotten quite an abundant amount of judicial convictions in my time, none of which have landed me in trouble with any of my HR Depts.

You never have a person meet their accuser. You want to talk about face to face firing. Why wouldn't this person supervisor have the balls to take it up with the thief himself? That is his job FWIW. To manage the people under him.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

You never have a person meet their accuser. You want to talk about face to face firing. Why wouldn't this person supervisor have the balls to take it up with the thief himself? That is his job FWIW. To manage the people under him.

I don't fire asshat, but I am the accuser and I tell them to their face what I know. I interview then they decide to suspend or terminate. I am just the person to find out how much or who else is involved. How about you stop talking about things you have not one clue about. Thanks.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I don't fire asshat, but I am the accuser and I tell them to their face what I know. I interview then they decide to suspend or terminate. I am just the person to find out how much or who else is involved. How about you stop talking about things you have not one clue about. Thanks.

So you are the accuser and the person who finds out how much and who else is involved? I see no conflict there at all.