Per 810: Chiefs tried to trade back up into 1st round

[Coogs]

And they are looking to move up in the 2nd.

They think Dalvin Cook is the target.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...deshone-kizer/

59. Kansas City Chiefs
Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee: Spencer Ware is a solid option at running back, but Kamara provides a fastball to the arsenal.

Would certainly help our Oline with their run blocking

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Pugs, got an:

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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think it was Foster and with Foster off the board, you'll see him stand pat in this round.

The Chiefs have a second round and third round pick with two 4's and two 5's to go along with a 6th & 7th.

This roster cannot accommodate 8 more players so I fully expect Dorsey to use the extra picks to move up at some point, most likely, twice.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Alex Smith?

Give Ware a shot with a real QB and I think the dude can be a 1,000+ yard back every season. FFS....how many times did Smith overthrow Ware on gimme passes?

I think he just hit a bit of a wall and maybe never fully rebounded from the lost time due to the concussion; lost his rhythm.

Just look at some of these clips:

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/1...s-running-back

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...as-city-chiefs

I see a guy that's a more powerful Dalvin Cook. Cook isn't a burner and I'm not sure why people keep saying he is. Cook's a rich man's West - picks and pops; sees holes and runs for surprising power for a slightly smaller back. Ware, OTOH, take some of those same traits and puts it in a much MUCH more powerfully built man.

Ware is a good player that can give us most of what Cook could, IMO. And he can do things Cook can't. I just don't see a reason to quit on him yet. Something went awry last year but the skills to be 1,200 yard back are there.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs have a second round and third round pick with two 4's and two 5's to go along with a 6th & 7th.

This roster cannot accommodate 8 more players so I fully expect Dorsey to use the extra picks to move up at some point, most likely, twice.

True, but they could always use more depth.

The defensive front 7 could always use depth.

A swing tackle as well

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I think we should aim to move up in either the 2nd or 3rd, maybe both if it isn't a huge leap.

Then again, I don't know that Dorsey needs to move up to find good players. History says he doesn't.

[O.city]

Wasn't ware leading the league in total yards thru like 5 games? Seems something happened there.

[DaneMcCloud]

There is so much talent left on the board that it would be nearly impossible for Dorsey to make a bad selection.

I know that a lot of people here on CP see ILB as a "need" pick but keep in mind, DJ Alexander and Ramik Wilson are ascending and should be much improved in Year 3 while Terrance Smith flashed as an undrafted free agent.

They most certainly need to grab someone (even if their plan is to sign Hodges immediately after the draft) but IMO, CB and Edge are much bigger needs.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs have a second round and third round pick with two 4's and two 5's to go along with a 6th & 7th.

This roster cannot accommodate 8 more players so I fully expect Dorsey to use the extra picks to move up at some point, most likely, twice.

Yeah but any significant move up in the 2nd will almost certainly require that comp 3rd. And after the 3rd is when the draft starts to thin out a bit more. I'd hate to see them lose a chance to add another major contributor with that 3rd.

I could see them using those 5th and 6th round picks to move up in the 4th. But the extra 7th round comps mean next to nothing; those guys are easily cut and the picks themselves have little to no trade up value. So I don't see him going too crazy - he'll just use those late rounders to make smaller moves and/or create camp competition.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

True, but they could always use more depth.

The defensive front 7 could always use depth.

A swing tackle as well

This is a historically bad draft for tackles so I'd be absolutely stunned if they even took a guy in the 7th.

By all accounts, they like guard Jordan Roos from Purdue but even he's a 6th or 7th, which is inline with their MO (Fulton in the 6th, LDT in the 6th).

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

There is so much talent left on the board that it would be nearly impossible for Dorsey to make a bad selection.

I know that a lot of people here on CP see ILB as a "need" pick but keep in mind, DJ Alexander and Ramik Wilson are ascending and should be much improved in Year 3 while Terrance Smith flashed as an undrafted free agent.

They most certainly need to grab someone (even if their plan is to sign Hodges immediately after the draft) but IMO, CB and Edge are much bigger needs.

I don't think any of those linebackers are more than special teamers/spot starters. They need a real ILB.

[Mecca]

This team could also easily look at a WR don't forget that.

[RunKC]

Stay pat at 59 then try to move up in rd 3 with the extra picks. That sounds good to me

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs have a second round and third round pick, two 4's and two 5's to go along with a 6th & 7th.

This roster cannot accomodate 8 more players so I fully expect Dorsey to use the extra picks to move up at some point, most likely, twice.

a TE and a RB will be drafted, but you can get two really good players in the 4th\5th still. George Kittle (TE) and Marlon Mack (RB)... or even a Joe Williams in the 7th. You can plan for those picks in the later rounds. You can also look at a guy like Marcus May (S) at the end of round 3 or maybe early 4. He's one of my favorite players in this draft and would be a day 1 starter across from the Black Viking. So you have options. CB, ILB, DL... hte most pressing needs is probably going to be ILB and CB because we need immediate starters at both positions.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I think we should aim to move up in either the 2nd or 3rd, maybe both if it isn't a huge leap.

Then again, I don't know that Dorsey needs to move up to find good players. History says he doesn't.

would you rather move up in the 2nd

or

move up in the 3rd