Thoughts on the 2016 draft class

[RunKC]

Chris Jones DL MSU
KeiVarae Russell CB ND
Parker Ehinger G/T Cincinnati
Eric Murray CB Minnesota
Demarcus Robinson WR Florida
Kevin Hogan QB Stanford
Tyreek Hill RB/PR West Alabama
DJ White CB Georgia Tech
Dadi Nicolas OLB Virginia Tech

What are your thoughts? Any steals? What's your initial grade?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

Hopefully he works out. Dunno if he's a day 1 starter though

This draft was so deep with defensive players that it pushed down offensive players by at least one round, if not two.

If Ehinger isn't a starter Day One, I'll be disappointed because his competition consists of a journeyman (Reid) and a heavy footed guard/center (Fulton).

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's a "disappointment" because you liked another player better?

Serious Question: Do you have Special Needs?

I think the other player has a brighter Future in the nfl based on that its a disappointment to me I don't understand what's so hard to understand about that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I think the other player has a brighter Future in the nfl based on that its a disappointment to me I don't understand what's so hard to understand about that.

Chiefsplanet is going to run out of facepalms today.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This draft was so deep with defensive players that it pushed down offensive players by at least one round, if not two.

If Ehinger isn't a starter Day One, I'll be disappointed because his competition consists of a journeyman (Reid) and a heavy footed guard/center (Fulton).

Techier said he will be competing for LDT and Fulton spot's on the line.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs lost to Denver in the last 30 seconds of the game on two fluke plays.

The Chiefs lost to the Patriots because Jeremy Maclin, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware, Mitch Morse, LDT and Justin Houston were sidelined and Tamba Hali was no where near full strength.

It didn't help that Knile Davis fumbled in the Red Zone.

JFC.

You didn't see Peyton Manning complete 4 passes on Jamel Fleming on an 80 yard drive to tie the game, including a TD?

You didn't see Tom Brady getting the ball out in 2 seconds to the underneath routes the entire game?

You didn't see Aaron Rodgers completely embarrass Marcus Cooper in man coverage for 2 TD's in GB?

This has been a huge routine problem every year Dane, and Dorsey drafting 3 CB's after drafting 2 last year proves this point.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Glad to see the insane love affair with loading up on offensive linemen hasn't quite died here yet.

Eh, we did need another guy on the interior for optimum depth/flexibility and I'm perfectly fine with using a 4th to do it, thats where I actually suggested we take one

Heres my draft guide on the guy

Pros - has tremendous length, a powerful punch and nasty mean streak. Has the ability to bully defenders,especially when he gets to the second level

Cons - has some athletic limitations and can be beaten with quickness inside. Shaky body control when moving in space

Bottom Line - uses length effectively, will appeal to power blocking teams as a potential starter

[KevB]

I really liked the Jones pick and the defensive backs. The DB's are all tough players with experience. Excited to replenish that group.

Hogan was a worthwhile pick. If they can improve his mechanics, you've got a winner.

The OL I'll defer to Reid and Dorsey, I'm sure he'll be a contributor given their history.

Robinson is awfully talented, he's probably worth a shot where we picked him.

Hated the Hill pick. He may well be Devin Hester, still hate the pick.

I've really never heard anyone say anything positive about Nicholas as a football player, but that late in the draft, I'm sure someone in the org thinks he's worth trying to develop.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You didn't see Peyton Manning complete 4 passes on Jamel Fleming on an 80 yard drive to tie the game, including a TD?

You didn't see Tom Brady getting the ball out in 2 seconds to the underneath routes the entire game?

You didn't see Aaron Rodgers completely embarrass Marcus Cooper in man coverage for 2 TD's in GB?

This has been a huge routine problem every year Dane, and Dorsey drafting 3 CB's after drafting 2 last year proves this point.

Yup lets hope this Draft pushes fleming and Cooper off the roster at some point.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You didn't see Peyton Manning complete 4 passes on Jamel Fleming on an 80 yard drive to tie the game, including a TD?

You didn't see Tom Brady getting the ball out in 2 seconds to the underneath routes the entire game?

You didn't see Aaron Rodgers completely embarrass Marcus Cooper in man coverage for 2 TD's in GB?

This has been a huge routine problem every year Dane, and Dorsey drafting 3 CB's after drafting 2 last year proves this point.

The other teams are paid to compete, too.

Without the two fluke plays against Denver in the final 30 seconds (along with 5 total turnovers) the Chiefs win that game and likely the #1 seed.

Blaming it on Fleming is just dumb.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Techier said he will be competing for LDT and Fulton spot's on the line.

Okay, that makes zero sense.

LDT is the right guard. Currently, Fulton is a swing guard/center and has not been assigned a starting role.

Ehringer may compete with Fulton for the left guard position but he's not competing with LDT.

[TLO]

I'm giving it a u- for now.

[oaklandhater]

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...very-selection

Adam Teicher breaks down the 2016 Kansas City Chiefs draft class.


Round 2, Pick No. 37: Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs could be losing defensive lineman Dontari Poe to free agency after next season. The addition of Jones gives the Chiefs insurance. In the meantime, the 6-foot-6, 308-pound Jones gives the Chiefs another big, capable player to plug into their defensive line rotation. The Chiefs can use Jones in a rotation that includes Poe, Allen Bailey and Jaye Howard. Jones probably won’t be a starter as a rookie but could get a lot of snaps and help keep the veteran defensive linemen fresh. The Chiefs have given their starting lineman, particularly Poe, a lot of snaps in recent seasons.

Not lacking for confidence: Asked for a scouting report on himself after being drafted by the Chiefs, Jones said, “A very dominant player. Has the ability to be a Pro Bowler. Needs to work on a few things. Could be one of the best of all time. It’s up to him." Asked what he needs to work on, Jones said, “I feel like there’s always something to get better at. When you stop getting better at something, you start losing concentration and ... you think you’re too good. So I’m always looking for ways to get better as a player and an individual."

Basketball background helps: Jones was a basketball player in high school in Houston, Mississippi. He says playing basketball helped his development as a football player. “It kind of gave me that lanky, pass-rushing mobility. In basketball, you’ve got to be (quick). I was a heck of a basketball player, too. Let me state that.’’

Round 3, Pick No. 59: KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame

My take: The Chiefs saw Russell as their last chance to get a cornerback capable of helping right away. The 5-11, 190-pound Russell was a three-year starter at Notre Dame. He’ll compete for playing time behind the starters, Marcus Peters and Phillip Gaines, and third cornerback Steven Nelson.

College career interrupted: After starting his first two seasons at Notre Dame, Russell missed all of the 2014 season. He was dismissed from the university after an academic scandal. But he was reinstated the following year and returned to play last season. His season ended a couple of games early because of a broken leg, but coach Andy Reid said Russell should be ready and available when the Chiefs start offseason practice in May.

Emotional moment: Russell broke down in tears when answering questions from Kansas City area reporters shortly after he was drafted. “Bear with me,’’ Russell said. “My mom struggled, never had much. It’s just a way out, a way out for my family. It’s a way to make my family smile, too. I was the first one to graduate high school, first one to go to college. I’ll be the first one to get my degree when I get it. This is something big. That’s why it’s so special. [Being drafted] is changing my circumstances."

Round 4, Pick No. 105: Parker Ehinger, G, Cincinnati | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs needed more depth at guard, where Laurent Duvernay-Tardif and Zach Fulton are the likely starters. Backup candidates are few, so Ehinger makes sense in that regard. He was a left tackle in college, and although he projects as a guard with the Chiefs, Ehinger could play right tackle if the need ever arises. Duvernay-Tardif and Fulton aren’t solid as the projected starters, so Ehinger could win a spot with a strong showing in offseason practice and training camp.

Round 4, Pick No. 106: Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs had no position as thin as cornerback heading into the draft and they’re throwing numbers at the spot with the selection of Murray. He is the second corner drafted by the Chiefs, following Notre Dame’s KeiVarae Russell in the third round. Murray, a three-year starter, will be given a chance to compete for playing time as a rookie. Most likely, that playing time would come as a spare cornerback in passing situations.

Round 4, Pick No. 126: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida | Highlights

My take: Robinson can be viewed as a risky pick. He was suspended numerous times in college and acknowledged at the scouting combine in February he went through rehab for drug abuse when he was a freshman. But Robinson has enough talent that he can help the Chiefs. He will compete for playing time with a group of receivers that includes Chris Conley and Albert Wilson. At 6-foot-1 and 204 pounds, Robinson has the size teams like in wide receivers.

Round 5, Pick No. 162: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford | Highlights

My take: Hogan’s addition means the Chiefs will eventually be unloading one of their other developmental quarterbacks, Tyler Bray or Aaron Murray. Hogan started 46 games in college with a 36-10 record, so he has a lot of experience and has been a winner. He’ll most likely spend his rookie season as the third-string quarterback behind starter Alex Smith and the loser of the Murray-Bray roster battle.

Round 5, Pick No. 165: Tyreek Hill, WR, West Alabama | Highlights

My take: Hill has dynamic return skills. Chiefs scout Ryne Nutt said special teams coach Dave Toub compared Hill to Devin Hester. But Hill pleaded guilty last year to punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend in December 2014. He was given three years of probation. He was thrown off the team at Oklahoma State after the incident and transferred to West Alabama.

“We’ve done the research on it,’’ Nutt said. “From that, I think, (general manager John Dorsey) was comfortable enough to take the kid.

“I’ve talked with the Oklahoma (State) staff and I’ve talked with the West Alabama staff. They all like the kid. He made a mistake. I’m not going to go into the details of it but the human being is somebody they like. You talk to the kid and he’s probably more than sorry it happened. But he’s a good person. He means well.’’

Round 6, Pick No. 178: D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech | Highlights

My take: Give the Chiefs credit for trying to address their numbers at cornerback. White is the third cornerback they’ve drafted, following KeiVarae Russell of Notre Dame in the third round and Eric Murray of Minnesota in the fourth. Unless they’re hit by a rash of injuries or unexpectedly part with a veteran, the Chiefs won’t be able to keep them all.

Round 6, Pick No. 203: Dadi Nicolas, DE, Virginia Tech | Highlights

My take: Nicolas is about 235 pounds, so he’s far too light to play defensive end and he’ll even have to add some weight to become an effective outside linebacker. He has some skills as a pass rusher but it’s a stretch to think the Chiefs will benefit from those skills anytime soon. He looks like he’s a practice squad candidate at best as a rookie.

Teicher's view on our draft.

[Iconic]

This draft is one big fat ****ing question mark. I'm about as lost as ever this year lol.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Eh, we did need another guy on the interior for optimum depth/flexibility and I'm perfectly fine with using a 4th to do it, thats where I actually suggested we take one

Heres my draft guide on the guy

Pros - has tremendous length, a powerful punch and nasty mean streak. Has the ability to bully defenders,especially when he gets to the second level

Cons - has some athletic limitations and can be beaten with quickness inside. Shaky body control when moving in space

Bottom Line - uses length effectively, will appeal to power blocking teams as a potential starter

I wasn't talking about the team. Was talking about some folks here still being obsessed with drafting o-line. I used to have a running joke about how every first round pick needed to be an o-lineman. They'd start at right tackle and then move left a spot left every season. A constant recycling line of first round picks! Only then could we be dominate (cp spelling...)

[Direckshun]

I like Jah as a swing tackle but I'm not looking forward to him starting all year.