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Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa receives his jersey from NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell after being selected by the San Diego Chargers with the third overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft on April 28, 2016 in Chicago. Photo by Brian Kersey/UPI | License Photo
Grading an NFL Draft immediately after it occurs is akin to giving your compliments to the chef based on the menu. It will take at least three years before we can truly assess how the 32 NFL teams fared this eekend. But waiting is no fun. As such, let's take a take at which teams appear to have done the best job of filling needs and building for the future via the seven rounds of the 2016 NFL draft.

AFC West Draft Grades: 2016 NFL Draft

Denver Broncos



You have to admire John Elway's aggression in trading up to nab Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch. The strong-armed and athletic passer is also a terrific schematic fit in Gary Kubiak's offense, which calls for lots of bootlegs and some of the quick screens that Lynch used so effectively with the Tigers. Lynch requires patience, however, which means that Mark Sanchez might be the starter for the Broncos in 2016. Patience could be the operative word with the rest of Denver's class, which featured several players coming off injury, including second-round defensive tackle Adam Gotsis (ACL) and running back Devontae Booker (meniscus). Third-round safety Justin Simmons might wind up making the most immediate impact for the Broncos, though Lynch, Gotsis and Booker all have legitimate starting talent, once ready. Of Denver's day three picks, athletic guard Connor McGovern stands out as a good schematic fit and punter Riley Dixon will be given every opportunity to make the roster.

Grade: B

Kansas City Chiefs

The Chiefs have won big with freakishly athletic big man Dontari Poe and general manager John Dorsey is hoping to duplicate that success with similarly long and agile defensive lineman Chris Jones, who can play or out in a three-man front. Offering similar versatility is Notre Dame's KeiVarae Russell, who could help at cornerback opposite last year's Rookie of the Year, Marcus Peters, or slip inside to play safety. Either way, Russell's athletic and physicality are NFL-caliber as is Minnesota corner Eric Murray, who popped off tape. Perhaps the most intriguing selection for the Chiefs, however, were wideouts Demarcus Robinson and Tyreek Hill. Each come with character red flags, but Andy Reid's history as a player's coach and the leadership in the locker room in Kansas City could unlock their undeniable talent. Stanford quarterback Kevin Hogan is going to make this roster as a fifth-round pick, taking the place of Chase Daniels as Alex Smith's primary backup.

Grade: B+

Oakland Raiders

The Raiders pulled of the major surprises of the first round with safety Karl Joseph at No. 14 overall. Joseph warranted this high of a pick, as he is a fierce hitter, with terrific ball skills and is the consummate locker room guy, but he is coming off a torn ACL, potentially impacting his ability to play right away. Oakland gambled up upside in the second round with former wide receiver and safety turned defensive lineman Jihad Ward, who really turned heads at the Senior Bowl. Third-rounder Shilique Calhoun was a three-time All-American defensive end at Michigan State. His burst, agility and refined hands could make him a very effective edge rusher in the NFL, too. Much will be made of the selection of Connor Cook in the fourth round. Rather than an indictment on youngster Derek Carr, this could be an example of Reggie McKenzie following in the footsteps of Ron Wolf in Green Bay, who was known for investing in young quarterbacks in the hopes of developing them and peddling them for future picks. Vadal Alexander's stock slip in 2015 because he played out of position at right tackle, but Oakland's seventh-round selection could prove a "surprise" if slid back inside at guard, where his lack of agility would be mitigated.

Grade: B

San Diego Chargers

Chargers general manager Tom Telesco fooled us all with pre-draft reports that the club was focusing on other players but instead taking the safer route with the pro-ready Joey Bosa at No. 3 overall. Bosa projected best as a traditional 4-3 defensive end, but it was his versatility, power and instincts that will be put to great use by defensive coordinator John Pagano. Expect to see Bosa line up wide as a stand-up rusher as well as drop down to a defensive end and even slip inside to defensive tackle on passing downs. He lacks the burst and bend most associate with a pick this high, but there is little bust factor with a player this polished. It is easy to be excited about San Diego's next three moves, as well, as the club found a true complement (and eventual replacement) for Antonio Gates with the sure-handed Hunter Henry in the second round, arguably the draft's most versatile offensive lineman in Southern Cal's Max Tuerk in the third and do-everything linebacker Joshua Perry, who was overshadowed a bit by all of the talent at Ohio State but could flourish in Pagano's scheme because of his length and power. Another versatile defender, Jatavis Brown -- a Combine snub -- could surprise, as well.

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Kansas City Chiefs, B
2 (37) (from Jacksonville via Baltimore) Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State
3 (74) (from Tampa Bay) Keivarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame
4 (105) (from San Francisco) Parker Ehinger, G, Cincinnati
4 (106) (from Chicago via Tampa Bay) Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota
4 (126) Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida
5 (162) (from Seattle) Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford
5 (165) Tyreek Hill, RB, West Alabama
6 (178) (from Dallas via San Francisco) D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech
6 (203) Dadi Lhomme Nicolas, OLB, Virginia Tech

Day 1: No picks

Day 2: Jones has as much potential as any player in the draft, after posting the No. 2 pass-rush grade in the nation a year ago. In just over 1,000 snaps the last two years, he’s graded among the best interior defensive linemen in the draft even though he still has technique issues to iron out. Give his strong hands, burst off the line of scrimmage, room for improvement and current on-field production, Jones could become one of the best players – and biggest steals — in this draft. Russell’s -1.3 coverage grade ranked No. 94 among cornerbacks in the class, although he looks better playing the press coverage that the Chiefs favor rather than playing in zone, where his more deliberate movements had him a step late far too often.

Day 3: Murray doesn’t excel in any one area, but he’s solid all around and he didn’t surrender a touchdown last season. Robinson’s off-field concerns are valid but he knows how to separate and he’s worth a mid-round opportunity. Hogan’s progression in 2015 is also worth a shot in the mid-rounds, though his accuracy beyond 20 yards is among the worst in the class. Nicholas could stick as a pass-rush specialist after posting the 18th-best grade in the class.
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Denver Broncos, B-
1 (26) (from Seattle) Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
2 (63) Adam Gotsis, DT, Georgia Tech
3 (98) Justin Simmons, CB, Boston College
4 (136) Devontae Booker, RB, Utah
5 (144) (from Baltimore) Connor McGovern, G, Missouri
6 (176) (from Cleveland) Andy Janovich, FB, Nebraska
6 (219) Will Parks, S, Arizona
7 (228) (from San Francisco) Riley Dixon, P, Syracuse

Day 1: Coming into the draft with a major need at quarterback, the Broncos grabbed the third-best option on the board in Lynch. His +30.5 overall grade ranked seventh in the class and he led the way with a 70.3 percent accuracy percentage when pressured. Memphis’ scheme limited his time in the pocket, rolling him out on about one-fifth of his snaps and throwing a number of screen passes — all concerns when projecting him to the NFL. Lynch struggles with accuracy outside the numbers, and he lacks the ability to throw receivers open against tight man coverage, but the arrow is pointing up in his career, even if we’d rather see him as a second- or third-round pick.

Day 2: Gotsis was off to a monster season (+17.2 on only 377 snaps) before going down due to injury. His +13.8 pass-rush grade on 170 attempts makes him an intriguing upside option on the interior. Simmons is a sure-tackling safety (13th-best tackling efficiency in class), but he can struggle when isolated in man coverage.

Day 3: Booker is a good fit for Denver’s outside zone scheme after posting the No. 3 run grade in the class at +25.6. Parks is one of our favorite picks in the draft after grading well in a safety/slot role for Arizona. He has the skills to play free safety in the NFL.
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Oakland Raiders, B
1 (14) Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia
2 (44) Jihad Ward, DE, Illinois
3 (75) Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State
4 (100) (from Tennessee via Philadelphia) Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
5 (143) (from Dallas) Deandre Washington, RB, Texas Tech
6 (194) (from Indianapolis) Cory James, OLB, Colorado State
7 (234) Vadal Alexander, G, LSU

Day 1: While Joseph was No. 30 on the PFF draft board, taking the top safety prospect in this class at No. 14 is still a good pick, as Joseph brings great versatility to the Raiders’ secondary. He made plays all over the field in coverage early in 2015, whether playing center field, in the box or in man coverage — all part of his impressive 240-play sample before injury ended his season. Joseph can also work downhill in the running game, and the Raiders are hoping that his 17 missed tackles from 2014 are a thing of the past.

Day 2: Ward did little to inspire confidence at Illinois, although he could develop into a good run defender. He had the 69th-best overall grade among edge defenders in the class and the 100th-best pass-rush grade at -0.3. On the other hand, Calhoun ranked second in the nation with a +44.0 pass rush grade, and while he’s not great in the run game, he can get after the quarterback early in his career. His 144 total pressures over two seasons were second only to No. 3 overall pick Joey Bosa (who had 145 for Ohio State).

Day 3: Cook is good value at the top of the fourth as he has a chance to at least become a tradable commodity down the road. He was ranked at No. 75 on the PFF draft board. Washington posted the third-best elusive rating in the class at 86.1, and he forced 67 missed tackles on 271 touches last season.
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San Diego Chargers, A-
1 (3) Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
2 (35) Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
3 (66) Max Tuerk, C, USC
4 (102) Joshua Perry, ILB, Ohio State
5 (175) Jatavis Brown, ILB, Akron
6 (179) Drew Kaser, P, Texas A&M
6 (198) (from Minnesota) Derek Watt, FB, Wisconsin
7 (224) Donavon Clark, G, Michigan State

Day 1: There was little discussion that Bosa would be the pick for the Chargers at No. 3, because of a perceived lack of ideal scheme fit, but they took the top player on our draft board and he will immediately upgrade their weak defensive front. Our top-graded edge defender each of the last two years, Bosa is strong against the run and he topped the nation with a +44.1 pass-rush grade. Whether he sees snaps on the outside at linebacker or he bulks back up to play 3-4 defensive end doesn’t really matter — Bosa simply defeats blockers in both phases of the game, and San Diego will take a major step forward with his addition.

Day 2: Ladarius Green has moved on, and Henry will fill his role as a pass-catching tight end. The sure-handed Henry didn’t drop a pass in 2015, and he has the speed to work the middle of the field for QB Philip Rivers. Tuerk moves better than any center in this draft, pulling and locking onto targets with great athleticism. Before going down to injury last year, he had posted a monster +9.4 overall grade on only 113 snaps.

Day 3: Perry is a solid-all around linebacker and he’s only missed nine tackles in over 200 attempts in the last two years. Brown is an athletic linebacker that can rush the passer (+23.9, first among LBs in class) and add value in coverage (+9.2, fourth in class). Watt posted the second-best grade among fullbacks in the draft class at +23.2.
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http://walterfootball.com/offseason2016kc.php

37. Chris Jones, DE/DT, Mississippi State: A- Grade
Surprise, surprise, Andy Reid bolstered either the offensive or defensive line. Some things never change, apparently. In this case, however, it's something Reid had to do. He lost Mike DeVito in free agency, so he had a hole at defensive end. Chris Jones will definitely fill that void, and he's someone who could've been chosen at the end of the first round. In fact, had the Patriots owned the 29th pick, I think I would've mocked Jones to them.

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74. KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame: B+ Grade
KeiVarae Russell is more talented than most third-round prospects, as he may have gone late one, early two if he didn't come attached with character concerns. However, Marcus Peters also had similar issues, and he worked out, so I can't blame the Chiefs for taking a chance. Kansas City needed a replacement for Sean Smith, and Russell should become a viable replacement.

105. Parker Ehinger, OT/G, Cincinnati: C+ Grade
Is anyone surprised that Andy Reid addressed his offensive line? It makes sense, as the Chiefs needed depth up front, but there were better linemen available. I've been mocking Ehinger (pronounced "Inger") in and out of my fifth or sixth round, so I think this is a bit too early for him. Still, the selection makes sense, so I won't be giving the Chiefs a bad grade.

106. Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota: B Grade
I like this pick better than No. 105. Eric Murray, unlike Parker Ehinger, fits the range as an early fourth-round pick. He's the second cornerback the Chiefs have selected thus far in the 2016 NFL Draft, but depth was needed at the position, and it never hurts to have as many cornerbacks as possible. Murray is very athletic and has tons of upside, so he could start some day.

126. Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida: C- Grade
This is surprising, to say the least. We didn't speak to one team that hadn't removed Demarcus Robinson from their board. Robinson, of course, has some major character concerns. He was suspended four times at Florida and never took well to coaching. Making matters worse, he was just a mediocre tester at the Combine. Andy Reid has enjoyed success with poor-character guys, but he'll need to put in a ton of work with Robinson.

162. Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford: B Grade
I don't have Charlie Campbell's exact quote, but I remember him saying once that Kevin Hogan plays now like Andrew Luck will when he's 38. Hogan doesn't have what it takes to start, but he's a smart guy and can learn any system to become a viable No. 2. This is when teams take backup quarterbacks, so the pick makes sense.

165. Tyreek Hill, WR, West Alabama: D Grade
Tyreek sounds like a character from Game of Thrones. Tyreek Lannister, perhaps? That's the best analysis I have for Tyreek Hill, as he wasn't in my top 400. He was kicked off Oklahoma State's team for domestic violence. Didn't the Chiefs already draft a receiver with character concerns?

178. D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech: A- Grade
A third cornerback? Well, I can't exactly blame the Chiefs, as they're getting great value with D.J. White. Viewed as a fourth-round prospect, White is quite the bargain atop the sixth frame. He should be able to see some time in the slot in the near future.

203. Dadi Nicolas, LB, Virginia Tech: A- Grade
I just graded the Lions' pick of Anthony Zettel and gave them an A-. I mention that because this is a very similar pick. Like Zettel, Dadi Nicolas was a productive player for his school and also showed off quality athleticism at the Combine. Unfortunately, Nicolas also has the same negative trait, which is that he's undersized. At 6-3, 235, Nicolas is a small edge rusher. He could become a pass-rushing specialist, but he'll probably never have a full-time role.
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37. Chris Jones, DE/DT, Mississippi State: A- Grade
Surprise, surprise, Andy Reid bolstered either the offensive or defensive line. Some things never change, apparently. In this case, however, it's something Reid had to do. He lost Mike DeVito in free agency, so he had a hole at defensive end. Chris Jones will definitely fill that void, and he's someone who could've been chosen at the end of the first round. In fact, had the Patriots owned the 29th pick, I think I would've mocked Jones to them.

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74. KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame: B+ Grade
KeiVarae Russell is more talented than most third-round prospects, as he may have gone late one, early two if he didn't come attached with character concerns. However, Marcus Peters also had similar issues, and he worked out, so I can't blame the Chiefs for taking a chance. Kansas City needed a replacement for Sean Smith, and Russell should become a viable replacement.

105. Parker Ehinger, OT/G, Cincinnati: C+ Grade
Is anyone surprised that Andy Reid addressed his offensive line? It makes sense, as the Chiefs needed depth up front, but there were better linemen available. I've been mocking Ehinger (pronounced "Inger") in and out of my fifth or sixth round, so I think this is a bit too early for him. Still, the selection makes sense, so I won't be giving the Chiefs a bad grade.

106. Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota: B Grade
I like this pick better than No. 105. Eric Murray, unlike Parker Ehinger, fits the range as an early fourth-round pick. He's the second cornerback the Chiefs have selected thus far in the 2016 NFL Draft, but depth was needed at the position, and it never hurts to have as many cornerbacks as possible. Murray is very athletic and has tons of upside, so he could start some day.

126. Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida: C- Grade
This is surprising, to say the least. We didn't speak to one team that hadn't removed Demarcus Robinson from their board. Robinson, of course, has some major character concerns. He was suspended four times at Florida and never took well to coaching. Making matters worse, he was just a mediocre tester at the Combine. Andy Reid has enjoyed success with poor-character guys, but he'll need to put in a ton of work with Robinson.

162. Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford: B Grade
I don't have Charlie Campbell's exact quote, but I remember him saying once that Kevin Hogan plays now like Andrew Luck will when he's 38. Hogan doesn't have what it takes to start, but he's a smart guy and can learn any system to become a viable No. 2. This is when teams take backup quarterbacks, so the pick makes sense.

165. Tyreek Hill, WR, West Alabama: D Grade
Tyreek sounds like a character from Game of Thrones. Tyreek Lannister, perhaps? That's the best analysis I have for Tyreek Hill, as he wasn't in my top 400. He was kicked off Oklahoma State's team for domestic violence. Didn't the Chiefs already draft a receiver with character concerns?

178. D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech: A- Grade
A third cornerback? Well, I can't exactly blame the Chiefs, as they're getting great value with D.J. White. Viewed as a fourth-round prospect, White is quite the bargain atop the sixth frame. He should be able to see some time in the slot in the near future.

203. Dadi Nicolas, LB, Virginia Tech: A- Grade
I just graded the Lions' pick of Anthony Zettel and gave them an A-. I mention that because this is a very similar pick. Like Zettel, Dadi Nicolas was a productive player for his school and also showed off quality athleticism at the Combine. Unfortunately, Nicolas also has the same negative trait, which is that he's undersized. At 6-3, 235, Nicolas is a small edge rusher. He could become a pass-rushing specialist, but he'll probably never have a full-time role.
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/offseason2...WtrTQo55lGb.99
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Thanks. Sounds like he actually gave us a little props. Not sure how to take that coming from him.
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I have to be honest, KeiVarae Russell is the only player I've heard of so based on that information I'll go with a B+.
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:26 AM   #57
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It was a mostly draft for "depth" because the Chiefs are already loaded with talent.


When some of the expensive guys are let go the "depth" will start.


That's also why the Chiefs drafted character issue guys. They can drop kick them in a heart-beat and not miss a step.

But if they hit, ohhhh my.......
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:32 AM   #58
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It was a mostly draft for "depth" because the Chiefs are already loaded with talent.


When some of the expensive guys are let go the "depth" will start.


That's also why the Chiefs drafted character issue guys. They can drop kick them in a heart-beat and not miss a step.

But if they hit, ohhhh my.......
That and Dorsey is more a player personal type guy, than a General Manager guy.

I think he feels more comfortable drafting 4 guys in the 4th round than he does taking 1 guy in the 1st round.

We just have to hope that his eye for talent works out for us.
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:33 AM   #59
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wasn't his drafting part of what got him fired in Philly ?
Reid & Dorsey's history here has been stellar. For the first three drafts, 18 of 23 picks are currently on the 53 man roster. That's 78%. Another half dozen or so undrafted rookie free agents have made this team (Wilson, West, Harris, March, etc.)

Additionally, another half dozen or so young players drafted by other teams have been poached from practices squads or picked up off the waiver wire to make the roster and contribute (Parker, Ware, Cooper, etc.). Plus, they've come out on the better end of what few trades they've made (Smith, Sherman).

Care to guess how many of Pioli's draft picks are still on this team? I'll tell you: four. That's the same number as Peterson's draft picks. Pioli's draft picks should be in their prime and contributing to this team right now but most of them are out of the league.

Dorsey & Reid took a team that was 2-14 and produced three winning seasons, two playoff appearances, and the first playoff win in forever. And they did it while almost completely turning this roster over. Eight players are all that exist from the previous two regimes. Making it even more amazing is the fact that there are only five players that are 30 or older (Smith, Hali, Johnson, Colquitt, & Fanaika).

The chiefs are winning, they're young, and they are doing it mostly with players that Reid & Dorsey have brought in. That is a track record we should all feel good about. We should try to appreciate what those two have done with this team in such a short period of time. Clark Hunt got it right this time.
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:40 AM   #60
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How'd Walter Football grade us? That's the TRUE measuring stick. That guy is always right in the money about us!!
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