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Old 02-15-2013, 09:06 AM  
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Jake Long not at top of FA LT list


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2. Jake Long
2012 Grade: -0.4
2012 Snaps: 745

Summary: Two years ago Jake Long was playing in a manner that made many hesitate when judging the Miami Dolphins for passing on Matt Ryan; the Falcons’ signal-caller was elite, but so was Jake Long at the “crucial” position of left tackle. Right now Long is just another example of the “what have you done for me lately” attitude in this league, with the Dolphins seemingly set to let him walk rather than pay him mega-bucks to hang around. Remember, two years ago Long was coming off of three consecutive seasons with a PFF grade of +30.0 or greater and was in the conversation as the league’s best left tackle.

Now, after two injury-affected seasons, Long has seen his performances and his league-wide stock slip somewhat to the extent that some may view him as damaged goods. Even so, Long is still a more than capable left tackle and with the knowledge of the “upside” of the first three years of his career it wouldn’t be a surprise to see someone take a risk on him.

Though he didn’t match his prior level this season, his issue was a couple of dodgy games in pass protection that accounted for a combined -7.4 pass protection grade, as he yielded two sacks, four hits, and four hurries to the Colts and Seahawks. If Long’s value is driven low and he can put the injuries behind him, someone could get a steal here. If not, someone could waste a lot of money on a worn down player entering a downward spiral.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:26 PM   #76
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Do you actually think that Matt Ryan is elite?
Not elite... well above average but not elite.

And people acting like the Dolphins somehow would be better off with Ryan is ludicrous. That organization is so ****ed. Yes, we all know QB is the most important position but let's not swing so far to delusional that we think a QB can fix a completely dysfunctional org.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:27 PM   #77
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Agree to disagree on that one.

I think Ryan is very similar to the QB they traded: Matt Schaub.

And I don't think Schaub is elite.
Schaub is just a journeyman. Ryan will end up in the hof.
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Playoff appearances mean jack shit if you do nothing.
Well then.....the Patriots have wasted draft picks and money surrounding Tom Brady with weapons.....and won jack shit since 2005. What a ****ing waste....
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:29 PM   #79
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It possibly could have. How many QBs have the Dolphins drafted/signed since they drafted Jake Long?

All of those picks/money could have been spent on other positions.
They picked 2 QBs in the ****ing 2nd round 2 consecutive seasons in a row(Beck being prior to Long and White) as well as taking Tannehill in the 1st.
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Ryan will end up in the hof.
lol what
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They picked 2 QBs in the ****ing 2nd round 2 consecutive seasons in a row(Beck being prior to Long and White) as well as taking Tannehill in the 1st.
3 years worth of high picks that could've been spent on other positions to help that team. Instead they spun their wheels trying to find a ****ing QB.
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Well then.....the Patriots have wasted draft picks and money surrounding Tom Brady with weapons.....and won jack shit since 2005. What a ****ing waste....
At least they have Superbowl appearances during that time line.

They're not like another ****ing team I know that made the playoffs 25 consecutive seasons without advancing to the Stanley Cup in hockey.
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At least they have Superbowl appearances during that time line.

They're not like another ****ing team I know that made the playoffs 25 consecutive seasons without advancing to the Stanley Cup in hockey.
All that matters are Superbowl wins. Since 2005.....they have zero.
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Well then.....the Patriots have wasted draft picks and money surrounding Tom Brady with weapons.....and won jack shit since 2005. What a ****ing waste....
So the Patriots traded away multiple first round picks, multiple second round picks and fourth round picks for three players?
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3 years worth of high picks that could've been spent on other positions to help that team. Instead they spun their wheels trying to find a ****ing QB.
That, as well as incompetent management.

They picked Ginn in the 1st round in 2007.
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Schaub is just a journeyman. Ryan will end up in the hof.
Wow.

I think there's a 50/50 chance that he won't be back with Atlanta in 2014.
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Schaub is just a journeyman. Ryan will end up in the hof.
2 teams=Journeyman?

OK.
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Not elite... well above average but not elite.

And people acting like the Dolphins somehow would be better off with Ryan is ludicrous. That organization is so ****ed. Yes, we all know QB is the most important position but let's not swing so far to delusional that we think a QB can fix a completely dysfunctional org.
Exactly.
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Wow.

I think there's a 50/50 chance that he won't be back with Atlanta in 2014.


So dumb.

Falcons are going to dump their top 10 QB because they have that backup plan in place thats going to be better.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:35 PM   #90
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So maybe if they hadn't given up two first rounders, three second rounders and those fourth round picks, they could have filled their defensive holes?
Since Ryan was drafted, here are the picks in the first three rounds

2008
2 offense (0 skill position)
3 defense


2009
0 offense (0 skill position)
3 defense

2010
1 offense (0 skill position)
2 defense

2011
1 offense (1 skill position)
1 defense

2012
2 offense (0 skill position)
0 defense


They have literally drafted 1 skill position player to go with him in 5 years in the first three rounds.
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