Sometimes you have to ignore metrics and draft a Preston Williams

Iconic · 04-04-2019, 07:07 PM

Sometimes. Sometimes you have to ignore he tore his ACL his senior year of high school. Sometimes you have to overlook the fact that he served a suspension due to harassment charges filed by his girlfriend. Sometimes you have to ignore his lack of production at Tennessee where he caught 16 passes for 247 yards and two touchdowns in 12 games.

And instead, you have to look forward. Forward to his transfer to CSU, where he sat his first year due to NCAA transfer rules but blossomed the year after.

Where in his final, first, and only full year of college football he racked up 1,345 yards and 14 TDs from 96 receptions. Where he had 3 games with over 150+ receiving yards and one game capping 248 receiving yards, averaging 14 yards per catch his his final year at CSU.

It's true. His proday wasn't the prettiest. It was slightly disappointing to be frank, primarily because of the amount of athleticism scouts saw in him. He chose not to train for it and this is what we got:

Height - 6'4"
Weight - 211
20 - 4.36
40 -4.55
3C -7.06

But. These are also the reasons why you will get him in the 3rd - 6th round. This is why a guy who was briefly getting low 1st round grades has dropped to where some don't even know who he is.

And watch this.

Does that guy look like he lacks athleticism? You can clearly see the flashes of speed and acceleration on tape, the kind you'd need to get separation in the NFL. He's not a burner obviously, but what he lacks in speed he makes up for in size. He can absolutely be a deep threat. According to PFF on passes over 20 yards, he's been targeted 42 times for 17 receptions 605 yards and 6TDs. When targeted deep QB's have a passer rating of 117.6 throwing his way. He's extremely versatile, ranked #6 by PFF in yards per route run when playing the slot. And if Mahomes wants to throw some fade routes in the redzone? Preston's your man. Every single time you see him go airborne in these highlights you see violent pull downs at the catch point. I'm not saying he's Larry Fitzgerald but... he kind of looks like Larry Fitzgerald.

Take a flyer on this guy in the 4th or 5th and watch our offense take shape with a flanker/split/big slot that can play for 10+ years.

Iconic · 04-04-2019, 07:34 PM

Whew.

kccrow · 04-05-2019, 12:51 AM

I can't recall too many receivers ever drafted under Reid going all the way back that were much over 6'1 and slower. There was that one white kid in Philly I forget his name. I dunno. I don't see it happening. If they go for a bigger receiver, I'm really on board with Boykin, cuz he has wheels to go with it.

Iconic · 04-05-2019, 09:59 AM

He's definitely drafted some. Chesson, Riley Cooper, Marvin McNutt just since 2010. But yeah it's rare and I don't think it's happening either. I just really like this kid, talent and technique in spades, he's more of a sleeper.

I REALLY like Boykin. IMO he's probably the second or third best WR in the draft. So unfortunately I don't think he's there for us in round 2. But if he is... holy ****.

DJ's left nut · 04-05-2019, 10:57 AM

Williams is intriguing for sure. You can make an argument for him in the 8-10 range among WRs as a pure prospect with a ceiling as high as the top 3.

Not somebody I'd be hard up on in the first couple of days but with a pair of 6th round picks he should probably on our radar (along with about a dozen other WRs who seem likely to slide a bit).

**The Franchise** · 04-05-2019, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

He's definitely drafted some. Chesson, Riley Cooper, Marvin McNutt just since 2010. But yeah it's rare and I don't think it's happening either. I just really like this kid, talent and technique in spades, he's more of a sleeper.

I REALLY like Boykin. IMO he's probably the second or third best WR in the draft. So unfortunately I don't think he's there for us in round 2. But if he is... holy ****.

I hope they go the route of Conley and trade up in the 3rd for Boykin. That kid with an actual QB is going to be amazing. Shit....I'd trade up in the 2nd for him.

Shoes · 04-05-2019, 01:06 PM

Reminds me of Josh Gordon a bit- decent comparison errrrr?

ntexascardfan · 04-05-2019, 01:24 PM

After the past year I'm completely fine with not drafting anyone who has any history of assault + violence.

Iconic · 04-15-2019, 03:43 PM

Iowa State's Hakeem Butler leads the draft class at receiver in total deep receiving yards from last season

The top 5:https://t.co/29lvKJBdXw pic.twitter.com/mqH8EJ9YnI
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) April 15, 2019

In good company

WhiteWhale · 04-15-2019, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I can't recall too many receivers ever drafted under Reid going all the way back that were much over 6'1 and slower. There was that one white kid in Philly I forget his name. I dunno. I don't see it happening. If they go for a bigger receiver, I'm really on board with Boykin, cuz he has wheels to go with it.

When I look at Reid it seems like he liked traditional west coast type WR's... but then he got a guy named Owens from SF. Owens was a big dude, but the thing that I think caught Andy's attention was his ability to run past the defense. After that the guy seems to draft for speed and quickness at the position and has had a lot of success with it.

Or it could just be that he adapted to the rules limiting physicality, making quicker and faster WR's more dangerous due to DB's inability to hold them.

I remember it wasn't the case early on when he was drafting Fred Ex and stuff. Either way a 6-4 4.55 guy doesn't strike me as a Reid type of WR.

Kiimo · 04-16-2019, 02:15 PM

In the draft guide Preston Williams is the #35 receiver.

Yikes.

staylor26 · 04-16-2019, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

In the draft guide Preston Williams is the #35 receiver.

Yikes.

He’s much better than that. That’s for sure.

TambaBerry · 04-16-2019, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

In the draft guide Preston Williams is the #35 receiver.

Yikes.

Why do you have this weird fascination with Arrowhead pride?

Kiimo · 04-16-2019, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Why do you have this weird fascination with Arrowhead pride?

I'm referring to the Athletic's Dane Bruglers draft guide, not Arrowhead Pride.

ModSocks · 04-16-2019, 02:52 PM

Chose not to train for the combine? Dafuq?

Ok. I get it. This guy is a goddamn idiot.

Decision making skills matter. And a collegiate football player with a chance to be drafted that doesn't train for what's essentially the biggest interview of his life is a very, very, very bad decision maker.

04-04-2019, 07:07 PM
Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $4160360	Sometimes you have to ignore metrics and draft a Preston Williams Sometimes. Sometimes you have to ignore he tore his ACL his senior year of high school. Sometimes you have to overlook the fact that he served a suspension due to harassment charges filed by his girlfriend. Sometimes you have to ignore his lack of production at Tennessee where he caught 16 passes for 247 yards and two touchdowns in 12 games. And instead, you have to look forward. Forward to his transfer to CSU, where he sat his first year due to NCAA transfer rules but blossomed the year after. Where in his final, first, and only full year of college football he racked up 1,345 yards and 14 TDs from 96 receptions. Where he had 3 games with over 150+ receiving yards and one game capping 248 receiving yards, averaging 14 yards per catch his his final year at CSU. It's true. His proday wasn't the prettiest. It was slightly disappointing to be frank, primarily because of the amount of athleticism scouts saw in him. He chose not to train for it and this is what we got: Height - 6'4" Weight - 211 20 - 4.36 40 -4.55 3C -7.06 But. These are also the reasons why you will get him in the 3rd - 6th round. This is why a guy who was briefly getting low 1st round grades has dropped to where some don't even know who he is. And watch this. Does that guy look like he lacks athleticism? You can clearly see the flashes of speed and acceleration on tape, the kind you'd need to get separation in the NFL. He's not a burner obviously, but what he lacks in speed he makes up for in size. He can absolutely be a deep threat. According to PFF on passes over 20 yards, he's been targeted 42 times for 17 receptions 605 yards and 6TDs. When targeted deep QB's have a passer rating of 117.6 throwing his way. He's extremely versatile, ranked #6 by PFF in yards per route run when playing the slot. And if Mahomes wants to throw some fade routes in the redzone? Preston's your man. Every single time you see him go airborne in these highlights you see violent pull downs at the catch point. I'm not saying he's Larry Fitzgerald but... he kind of looks like Larry Fitzgerald. Take a flyer on this guy in the 4th or 5th and watch our offense take shape with a flanker/split/big slot that can play for 10+ years.
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04-04-2019, 07:34 PM	#2
Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $4160360	Whew. __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley
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Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $4160360	He's definitely drafted some. Chesson, Riley Cooper, Marvin McNutt just since 2010. But yeah it's rare and I don't think it's happening either. I just really like this kid, talent and technique in spades, he's more of a sleeper. I REALLY like Boykin. IMO he's probably the second or third best WR in the draft. So unfortunately I don't think he's there for us in round 2. But if he is... holy **. __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley**
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04-05-2019, 10:57 AM	#5
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3019099	Williams is intriguing for sure. You can make an argument for him in the 8-10 range among WRs as a pure prospect with a ceiling as high as the top 3. Not somebody I'd be hard up on in the first couple of days but with a pair of 6th round picks he should probably on our radar (along with about a dozen other WRs who seem likely to slide a bit). __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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Shoes Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $4679690	Reminds me of Josh Gordon a bit- decent comparison errrrr?
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04-05-2019, 12:51 AM	#3
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3257078	I can't recall too many receivers ever drafted under Reid going all the way back that were much over 6'1 and slower. There was that one white kid in Philly I forget his name. I dunno. I don't see it happening. If they go for a bigger receiver, I'm really on board with Boykin, cuz he has wheels to go with it.
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ntexascardfan Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Casino cash: $7034900	After the past year I'm completely fine with not drafting anyone who has any history of assault + violence.
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04-15-2019, 03:43 PM	#9
Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $4160360	Iowa State's Hakeem Butler leads the draft class at receiver in total deep receiving yards from last season The top 5:https://t.co/29lvKJBdXw pic.twitter.com/mqH8EJ9YnI — Pro Football Focus (@PFF) April 15, 2019 In good company __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley
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04-16-2019, 02:15 PM	#11
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $4088742	In the draft guide Preston Williams is the #35 receiver. Yikes.
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ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4294563	Chose not to train for the combine? Dafuq? Ok. I get it. This guy is a goddamn idiot. Decision making skills matter. And a collegiate football player with a chance to be drafted that doesn't train for what's essentially the biggest interview of his life is a very, very, very bad decision maker. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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