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Old 11-15-2017, 02:30 PM   #1
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What I do know is that we are going to seriously need to re-tool our DL to actually fit the new defense we're going to run.

If we're going to run two-down lineman for an entire season, we need to really improve the talent we have there. Having marginally above average players like Bailey or RNR is suddenly not remotely good enough. Logan's probably a goner. So Chris Jones is, arguably, the only guy on the team that even has a prayer of functioning in this defense.

I support bringing Logan back, trading Bailey, keeping RNR as depth, and adding one or two more blue chips at DL. I just don't know how we can do that.

Bringing on Richardson would be a great boon to the team. He's a match for us.

I think if we get a 1st rounder, we should consider burning it on another DL.

If we're just going to play 2 DL all game, then we really need to get a ton tougher there than we currently are. RNR and Bailey are both fine players but neither of them can thrive in the system we're running.
If they flushed Sutton maybe they could make better use of the talent they currently have.
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:44 PM   #2
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If they flushed Sutton maybe they could make better use of the talent they currently have.
I guinunely feel like the defensive talent is overrated on CP.

Outside of Marcus Peters, Justin Houston and Eric Berry (who's out for the year), there's just not much there. Chris Jones is experiencing a "sophomore slump" but I think he'll snap out of it before next season (and hopefully, before).

Hali and DJ are old and slow. Bailey's had a tough year. Logan, too. KPL and Ragland have shown some upside but they're far from being finished products. Frank Zombo is the epitome of an average player and Dee Ford is seemingly always injured.

Steven Nelson can be better than average but Acker, Mitchell and Gaines, on their best days, are far from average. Eric Murry is definitely a liability, as is Sorenson when he's asked to drop in coverage as a linebacker.

This defense has a LOT of holes to address.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:43 PM   #3
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I guinunely feel like the defensive talent is overrated on CP.

Outside of Marcus Peters, Justin Houston and Eric Berry (who's out for the year), there's just not much there. Chris Jones is experiencing a "sophomore slump" but I think he'll snap out of it before next season (and hopefully, before).

Hali and DJ are old and slow. Bailey's had a tough year. Logan, too. KPL and Ragland have shown some upside but they're far from being finished products. Frank Zombo is the epitome of an average player and Dee Ford is seemingly always injured.

Steven Nelson can be better than average but Acker, Mitchell and Gaines, on their best days, are far from average. Eric Murry is definitely a liability, as is Sorenson when he's asked to drop in coverage as a linebacker.

This defense has a LOT of holes to address.
I 100% agree with this.

I really think that first and foremost, the Chiefs need to look for a strong DE to anchor the side of the field. Allen Bailey has been a good player at times, but he's not stout enough. We need a strong, stout lineman to hold the point and stuff the run, and I think that's why a huge guy like Cam Thomas was signed.

Maybe we could look into a Star Lotulelei, but I think Arthur Jones or Quinton Dial would be perfect along with a high draft pick.

I think after that we need to just take BPA on the defensive side. Honestly it doesn't matter to me because every player outside Eric Berry, Marcus Peters, Chris Jones and maybe Bennie Logan are absolutely replaceable.

Just quit drafting these long term development picks. It's so stupid. If he can't get on the field year 1, don't invest in them until the 4th rd (would be okay with a known player being injured).
Draft guys who have shown they can play and be tough. It's not hard.
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:20 AM   #4
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I 100% agree with this.
Honestly it doesn't matter to me because every player outside Eric Berry Marcus Peters, Chris Jones and Justin Houston maybe Bennie Logan are absolutely replaceable.
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I guess we could try putting orange cones on the outside to defend receivers because without Marcus Peters, that's pretty much what it would look like.
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I guess we could try putting orange cones on the outside to defend receivers because without Marcus Peters, that's pretty much what it would look like.
Aside form his occasional interception, he's been about that good this season as well. Call me not mesmerized by a turnover when the rest of his game has been shit. He's better than the rest of the shit the Chiefs have in coverage, and I'm obviously concerned about that other load of shit, but I'm not giving Peters much leeway either. I'd honestly be looking for his replacement before then end of his rookie deal and trying to make a trade in his option year the way things have been. His coverage ability is certainly replaceable and my dead grandmother could play as well in run support.
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Just quit drafting these long term development picks. It's so stupid. If he can't get on the field year 1, don't invest in them until the 4th rd (would be okay with a known player being injured).
Draft guys who have shown they can play and be tough. It's not hard.
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