Chiefs State of the defense

ILChief · 01-07-2018, 07:46 AM

Ok, everyone knows Sutton needs to go. Aside from that, what defensive players are you comfortable keeping around for the foreseeable future?

I have Peters, Berry, Ragland, Jones, Houston ($$$?), Nelson

KPL has done well but is a free agent. Parker and Bailey are not going to be around much longer.

Guys like K Pass and Alighwe are unknowns

DJ, Hali, and Ford are goners.

We have a lot of work to do in defense

tmax63 · 01-07-2018, 07:48 AM

Everyone but Ragland and jones

Chiefnj2 · 01-07-2018, 07:50 AM

Peters, Jones, Berry and guys who were drafted this past year.

All the others, who gives a crap.

PAChiefsGuy · 01-07-2018, 07:51 AM

The defense ****ing sucks.. Couldn't even stop the Titans without Murray... Titans actually should have scored more. We are lucky Mariota is so inaccurate and their WRs suck.

ILChief · 01-07-2018, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Peters, Jones, Berry and guys who were drafted this past year.

All the others, who gives a crap.

Ragland has been really good this year

**Easy 6** · 01-07-2018, 09:55 AM

Veach really has a huge job ahead of him with this group, there are going to be a lot of spots to fill

Hali
Probably DJ
Either Bailey or Logan, maybe both
Parker needs to go
Revis can get ****ed after yesterdays effort

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-07-2018, 10:16 AM

A reboot on defense spells bad news. But then again...how much worse can a defense get?

I like Parker but he looks done tbh. He has really taken a step back this year.

kcpasco · 01-07-2018, 10:18 AM

Just getting Berry back healthy will help.

FloridaMan88 · 01-07-2018, 10:19 AM

The Chiefs defense is old, slow and predictable.

All three of those issues must be addressed in the offseason.

tmax63 · 01-07-2018, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Just getting Berry back healthy will help.

Knees, Achilles, and cancer. He hasn't played a whole lot more than Dee Ford the last 5 years. I keep hearing "when Berry's back" but the truth is they have played as much without as with him. Berry getting old as well, not TB old but to the age that detractors will use it against him.

lcarus · 01-07-2018, 10:23 AM

VAChief · 01-07-2018, 10:23 AM

The defense is a mess. Getting gashed for 156 yards mostly after getting a huge lead is just inexcusable. Mariota was not going to beat you through the air if you just stop the run. The 3rd down and long on the first drive when we had them pinned down with a long field would have been the game. Of course that whole drive was a cluster**** but that play would essentially become the defensive theme during their comeback.

We had zero toughness.

BleedingRed · 01-07-2018, 10:25 AM

Sign talib
Draft OLB
Sign ILB
Sign DE
Draft Safety

**Bwana** · 01-07-2018, 10:29 AM

There is a lot of work to do, because unfortunately right now it resembles this:

FringeNC · 01-07-2018, 10:32 AM

MM had some terrible throws and drops. You take those away, and this D would have gotten shredded the whole game like they did the 2nd half. This D is one of the very worst in the league.

Andy Reid was successful in Philly when he had top 10 Ds under Jim Johnson. You give this team a top 10 D and it is the best team in the league. I think it's going to take pressure from Hunt to get rid of Sutton. Reid is loyal to a fault.

And if the problem isn't Sutton, but is the players, then there is a huge job ahead for Veach.

01-07-2018, 07:46 AM
ILChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $7914831	State of the defense Ok, everyone knows Sutton needs to go. Aside from that, what defensive players are you comfortable keeping around for the foreseeable future? I have Peters, Berry, Ragland, Jones, Houston ($$$?), Nelson KPL has done well but is a free agent. Parker and Bailey are not going to be around much longer. Guys like K Pass and Alighwe are unknowns DJ, Hali, and Ford are goners. We have a lot of work to do in defense
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	Peters, Jones, Berry and guys who were drafted this past year. All the others, who gives a crap. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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PAChiefsGuy Best Body On ChiefsPlanet Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $2864900	The defense ****ing sucks.. Couldn't even stop the Titans without Murray... Titans actually should have scored more. We are lucky Mariota is so inaccurate and their WRs suck.
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3617775	Veach really has a huge job ahead of him with this group, there are going to be a lot of spots to fill Hali Probably DJ Either Bailey or Logan, maybe both Parker needs to go Revis can get ****ed after yesterdays effort
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TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	A reboot on defense spells bad news. But then again...how much worse can a defense get? I like Parker but he looks done tbh. He has really taken a step back this year.
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01-07-2018, 10:23 AM	#12
VAChief Comfortably Numb Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $5125842	The defense is a mess. Getting gashed for 156 yards mostly after getting a huge lead is just inexcusable. Mariota was not going to beat you through the air if you just stop the run. The 3rd down and long on the first drive when we had them pinned down with a long field would have been the game. Of course that whole drive was a cluster**** but that play would essentially become the defensive theme during their comeback. We had zero toughness.
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01-07-2018, 10:32 AM	#15
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1686014	MM had some terrible throws and drops. You take those away, and this D would have gotten shredded the whole game like they did the 2nd half. This D is one of the very worst in the league. Andy Reid was successful in Philly when he had top 10 Ds under Jim Johnson. You give this team a top 10 D and it is the best team in the league. I think it's going to take pressure from Hunt to get rid of Sutton. Reid is loyal to a fault. And if the problem isn't Sutton, but is the players, then there is a huge job ahead for Veach.
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