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Old 07-31-2014, 01:23 PM  
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***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II***
Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:45 PM   #226
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Wacha's velocity was a tremendously positive sign. And we're PH'ing Ellis against a RHP?
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Mark Ellis is every bit as bad as Ty Wigginton. Goddamn, he ****ing sucks.
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Mark Ellis is every bit as bad as Ty Wigginton. Goddamn, he ****ing sucks.
Thats just pure BS. He was only insurance for wong. He is not one of Matheny's guys. You want to save Grichuk or taveras for a double switch later okay. But Kozma and Delcasco have some hits lately. Ellis has been out for weeks. He should not be getting AB's in playoff push time.
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I love Mott as a person and we will always have 2011 but a reliever coming in and throwing a flat, no movement 93 MPH fastball is going to get hammered.
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Mark Ellis is every bit as bad as Ty Wigginton. Goddamn, he ****ing sucks.
He's old, its why we let him go and the team before us as well. Think he was with the A's for a bit.
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Rosenthal has got to go. He's just ****ing terrifying.
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Rosenthal has got to go. He's just ****ing terrifying.
Ain't happening. He would have to blow 5 games to get canned. Let's hope there isn't 5 blown games.

Besides that, it was a good game. All of a sudden we have a damn good defense.
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Big win, great defense. Left alot of runs out there.
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I like Scruggs off the bench in the playoffs. Would like to see Oscar get more AB's but with Jay and Bourjos playing well, it's tough.
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Mark Ellis is every bit as bad as Ty Wigginton. Goddamn, he ****ing sucks.
Unlike Wigginton the Ellis signing at the time at least made since with him being productive last year and Wong not being a sure thing. Just got hurt and fell off the cliff which was hardly surprising but there was at least a solid chance that could have been a year away from happening.
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They use slightly different formulas. The difference is more noticeable with pitchers than position players. Their use of different fielding formulas is why Peralta rates slightly higher in bWAR than fWAR
I take it ESPN also list bWAR? It's pleasantly surprising how well he has played this year. At least using WAR as a reference you would hardly expect a guy to put up his best season after a signing a decently sized contract that followed a PED suspension.
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Unlike Wigginton the Ellis signing at the time at least made since with him being productive last year and Wong not being a sure thing. Just got hurt and fell off the cliff which was hardly surprising but there was at least a solid chance that could have been a year away from happening.
Yeah, he was a good one year insurance policy. I have no problems with the signing. We still have a payroll lower than last years. We had money to buy insurance. But now, he needs to ride the pine the rest of the way.
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