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Old 02-15-2013, 09:06 AM  
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2. Jake Long
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Summary: Two years ago Jake Long was playing in a manner that made many hesitate when judging the Miami Dolphins for passing on Matt Ryan; the Falcons’ signal-caller was elite, but so was Jake Long at the “crucial” position of left tackle. Right now Long is just another example of the “what have you done for me lately” attitude in this league, with the Dolphins seemingly set to let him walk rather than pay him mega-bucks to hang around. Remember, two years ago Long was coming off of three consecutive seasons with a PFF grade of +30.0 or greater and was in the conversation as the league’s best left tackle.

Now, after two injury-affected seasons, Long has seen his performances and his league-wide stock slip somewhat to the extent that some may view him as damaged goods. Even so, Long is still a more than capable left tackle and with the knowledge of the “upside” of the first three years of his career it wouldn’t be a surprise to see someone take a risk on him.

Though he didn’t match his prior level this season, his issue was a couple of dodgy games in pass protection that accounted for a combined -7.4 pass protection grade, as he yielded two sacks, four hits, and four hurries to the Colts and Seahawks. If Long’s value is driven low and he can put the injuries behind him, someone could get a steal here. If not, someone could waste a lot of money on a worn down player entering a downward spiral.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:10 PM   #136
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Matt Ryan holds the record for most wins by a QB in his first 5 seasons. He sucks.
Well what is Jake Longs record as starting LT with the Dolphins? Yep Dolphins made the better choice.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:23 PM   #137
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Well what is Jake Longs record as starting LT with the Dolphins? Yep Dolphins made the better choice.
Matt Ryan is the all time wins leader in Atlanta. Jake Long also plays football.
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Matt Ryan is the all time wins leader in Atlanta. Jake Long also plays football.
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Matt Ryan is the all time wins leader in Atlanta. Jake Long also plays football.
For ****'s Sake, are you stating that Atlanta was an elite team at ANY point in their existence?
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Matt Ryan is the all time wins leader in Atlanta. Jake Long also plays football.
Nice. Avoid reality to make snide comments instead.

Let's make this the simple: Would Miami, coming off a 1-15 season, be better off today had they taken Ryan? If so, prove it.

Otherwise, shut your ****ing piehole.
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And you've failed to prove how Miami is worse off than Atlanta because they chose Long over Ryan.
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Wish we got to draft Matt Ryan. He is on the verge of breaking into elite status.


Dolphins would have been better off pickng Matt Ryan for sure. Any one who thinks they were better off with Jake Long is FOS.
Verge? After five years, two offensive coordinator and multiple picks in order to draft better off offensive players, Matt Ryan is on the verge of elite?

Wow, you don't say? How many other offensive weapons does he need before being considered elite?
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What you don't understand is that the Dolphins haven't had to waste a bunch of draft picks on offense. For example, in 2008, only 6 of their top 8 picks were on offense including a QB in the second.

In 2009, it was only 4 of the first 6 with another QB in the second round.


Don't even get me started on 2010. Only 1 of the first 3 picks were offensive players. Granted, 2011, their first 4 picks were all offense, but in 2012, only 5 of the first 6 were offensive players including trading up for a QB in the first.

Could you imagine if they had drafted Matt Ryan? They would have probably wound up drafting a bunch of offensive players with high picks and wouldn't even have Pat White, Chad Henne, and Ryan Tannehill to show for their two second rounders, a first rounder, plus the picks they traded away to move up for Tannehill.
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What you don't understand is that the Dolphins haven't had to waste a bunch of draft picks on offense. For example, in 2008, only 6 of their top 8 picks were on offense including a QB in the second.

In 2009, it was only 4 of the first 6 with another QB in the second round.


Don't even get me started on 2010. Only 1 of the first 3 picks were offensive players. Granted, 2011, their first 4 picks were all offense, but in 2012, only 5 of the first 6 were offensive players including trading up for a QB in the first.

Could you imagine if they had drafted Matt Ryan? They would have probably wound up drafting a bunch of offensive players with high picks and wouldn't even have Pat White, Chad Henne, and Ryan Tannehill to show for their two second rounders, a first rounder, plus the picks they traded away to move up for Tannehill.
Wow, way to compare apples to oranges.



The more I read from you in this thread, the more I realize that you'd prefer to argue rather than use any common sense.

Again, par for the course.
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Nice. Avoid reality to make snide comments instead.

Let's make this the simple: Would Miami, coming off a 1-15 season, be better off today had they taken Ryan? If so, prove it.

Otherwise, shut your ****ing piehole.
Just to be clear, you're asking me to prove something that didn't happen would would have happened? Unfortunately, I'm bound by this pesky space-time continuum. Otherwise, I would get right on that.
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What you don't understand is that the Dolphins haven't had to waste a bunch of draft picks on offense. For example, in 2008, only 6 of their top 8 picks were on offense including a QB in the second.

In 2009, it was only 4 of the first 6 with another QB in the second round.


Don't even get me started on 2010. Only 1 of the first 3 picks were offensive players. Granted, 2011, their first 4 picks were all offense, but in 2012, only 5 of the first 6 were offensive players including trading up for a QB in the first.

Could you imagine if they had drafted Matt Ryan? They would have probably wound up drafting a bunch of offensive players with high picks and wouldn't even have Pat White, Chad Henne, and Ryan Tannehill to show for their two second rounders, a first rounder, plus the picks they traded away to move up for Tannehill.
But, can you prove they still wouldn't have taken those same guys?
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Just to be clear, you're asking me to prove something that didn't happen would would have happened? Unfortunately, I'm bound by this pesky space-time continuum. Otherwise, I would get right on that.
So why are you even arguing? Oh, thats right.

Your M.O. Is to argue.

Go **** yourself.
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But, can you prove they still wouldn't have taken those same guys?
Ha ha ha, **** you, too.

Seriously, **** you.
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So why are you even arguing? Oh, thats right.

Your M.O. Is to argue.

Go **** yourself.
Sorry for being so confrontational and argumentative. You and Buzz Tin Ballz are really good at this.
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