An open letter to former Slayer drummer Dave Lombardo

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by splatbass

As a professional musician for more than 30 years, including as a bass player, I can tell you you don't know shit about it.

Care to explain? I'm curious since you have yet to argue a single point related to this thread.
BTW- please don't assume I'm ignorant. I can play bass better than Rick Savage on his best day, (that's not saying much). I've also met a man on the street who has played the kazoo through his nose professionally for 43 years.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Care to explain? I'm curious since you have yet to argue a single point related to this thread.
BTW- please don't assume I'm ignorant. I can play bass better than Rick Savage on his best day, (that's not saying much). I've also met a man on the street who has played the kazoo through his nose professionally for 43 years.

I explained in my first post. Not my fault if you don't understand.

Bass has been my main instrument for several decades. I've played classic rock, alternative, metal, punk, blues, jazz, Motown, funk, country and pretty much every other form of popular music you can think of in that time. Bass is an essential part of all of that music. It creates the groove that makes a style what it is. I can literally change the feel of a song by playing a different bass line.

And about the only styles that routinely play only on the root as you said are punk and some metal. Even Rick Savage doesn't just play on the root, although you are correct, he isn't a great bass player.

Now I'm off my soapbox.

One more thing, you can't always tell how good a bass player is by their recorded bass lines. A good bass player plays for the song. Sometimes that means keeping it simple, because that is what works for the music. Michael Anthony is a much better bass player than he appears to be listening to Van Halen, because in VH he plays it simple to keep out of Eddie's way. That it the job of the bass, to support the song.

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I explained in my first post. Not my fault if you don't understand.

Bass has been my main instrument for several decades. I've played classic rock, alternative, metal, punk, blues, jazz, Motown, funk, country and pretty much every other form of popular music you can think of in that time. Bass is an essential part of all of that music. It creates the groove that makes a style what it is. I can literally change the feel of a song by playing a different bass line.

And about the only styles that routinely play only on the root as you said are punk and some metal. Even Rick Savage doesn't just play on the root, although you are correct, he isn't a great bass player.

Now I'm off my soapbox.

The question I have: Would you expect to songwriting/ publishing money from the work you do when you weren't a contributor to the original chord progression, melody or lyrics or would you accept a standard playing fee along with an equal division of touring money.
P.S. - I know there's no such thing as an original chord progression these days but you catch my drift.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

The question I have: Would you expect to songwriting/ publishing money from the work you do when you weren't a contributor to the original chord progression, melody or lyrics or would you accept a standard playing fee along with an equal division of touring money.
P.S. - I know there's no such thing as an original chord progression these days but you catch my drift.

That depends on the agreement between band members. Some bands give equal songwriting credits to all members regardless of input, others go by who actually wrote. It is a contract issue, not a music issue.

Led Zeppelin shared credit. Lennon and McCartney agreed to have both names on their Beatles songs regardless of which one actually wrote it. Other bands don't do it that way.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

The question I have: Would you expect to songwriting/ publishing money from the work you do when you weren't a contributor to the original chord progression, melody or lyrics or would you accept a standard playing fee along with an equal division of touring money.
P.S. - I know there's no such thing as an original chord progression these days but you catch my drift.

JFC does a drummer even play in the shit you think is metal.

[KCUnited]

Raining Blood cover sans bass. Seemed appropriate.

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

JFC does a drummer even play in the shit you think is metal.

I've heard many amazing drummers in metal. Vinny Paul is probably my favorite.
These days it seems like drummers are becoming more dispensable with the technology that's available in even the lowest grade of studio.
Look at Chris Adler from Lamb of God. He could probably be replaced by Richard Christie over the course of a week or so.
In this time and age Drummers are replaceable. A good/creative bass player is far more rare.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

I've heard many amazing drummers in metal. Vinny Paul is probably my favorite.
These days it seems like drummers are becoming more dispensable with the technology that's available in even the lowest grade of studio.
Look at Chris Adler from Lamb of God. He could probably be replaced by Richard Christie over the course of a week or so.
In this time and age Drummers are replaceable. A good/creative bass player is far more rare.

ya. sure. no.