Chiefs Ravens cry foul over noncall on final play of loss to Chiefs - Page 5

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2018, 11:37 PM

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https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...209-story.html

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As Ravens quarterback Robert Griffin III dropped back to pass on what proved to be the final play of Sunday’s game, the odds were not good.

The Ravens were down a field goal in overtime. Starting quarterback Lamar Jackson was out with an ankle injury. Under two minutes remained. The team faced a fourth-and-22 from its 41-yard line. According to ESPN, the Kansas City Chiefs’ win probability was over 79 percent.

But after the pass fell incomplete and the 27-24 overtime loss was sealed, the Ravens were unhappy the game hadn’t lasted at least a play longer. Coach John Harbaugh, wide receiver Willie Snead IV and Griffin said the officials missed a pass-interference penalty on Chiefs cornerback and Baltimore native Kendall Fuller.

The penalty would’ve produced an automatic Ravens first down and kept alive their hopes for a game-tying field goal or game-winning touchdown.

“Yeah, I saw it,” Harbaugh said. “I think you guys should write what you see. You want us to get up here and criticize the officiating. You saw the officiating all day. You know what it was. You should write what you see. You don’t get fined for it, right?” (Coaches are subject to NFL fines for criticism of the officiating.)

Griffin said he didn’t have a chance to warm up before entering the game facing a third-and-22. His first throw was an incompletion, and after Jackson did not return to the huddle, the team’s third-string quarterback dropped back one final time.

He targeted Snead, running an out-breaking route close to the line to gain. “I was like, ‘I got a chance here,’ ” Snead recalled thinking. Had he made a sixth catch Sunday, the reception might have come up just short of the 37-yard line he needed to reach.

But he said he felt premature contact from Fuller, and Griffin saw the same.

“I mean, of course I did,” said Snead, who had a team-high 61 yards. “I thought that. At the end of the day, it’s out of my control. I got to catch the ball, but I felt like I would’ve been short anyways, but at the end of the day, there was contact. But it is what it is. You just got to learn from it and move on.”

He added: “There were calls we could’ve got all over the game, but at the end of the day, it came down to that play. I didn’t get the call. At the end of the day, I didn’t get the catch.”

Griffin, who said he hadn’t been able to watch a replay of the coverage, blamed himself for not throwing a better pass. But he pointed to the Ravens’ indignant sideline reaction as a reflection of his own perception of the noncall.

“I felt like Willie ran a great route and the DB got there a little early, and they didn't call it,” Griffin said. “It makes me feel a little bad. I feel like I let the team down in that situation. I was ready to go and I tried to do the best I could at that time. Just wish I could've done more."

lawrenceRaider · 12-10-2018, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

No, Jackson wasn't down, and further more, had moved left out of the pocket and pulled the ball down-i.e. he's a runner. Houston grabbed him by the legs, and Ford popped him pretty good, but it was clean. If you're going to play as a hybrid RB/QB, you're going to take hits like that when you leave the pocket.

Again, it's been called roughing this year, frequently. I think it was a good football play.

Chris Meck · 12-10-2018, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Again, it's been called roughing this year, frequently. I think it was a good football play.

If that was in the pocket, yeah. Outside the pocket, with the ball tucked, he's not a QB anymore, he's a ball carrier.

TomBarndtsTwin · 12-10-2018, 08:27 AM

(That’s really all I have to say on the matter)

staylor26 · 12-10-2018, 08:28 AM

There’s no rule that another guy can’t come in an assist in bringing down a QB, which is all that happened.

It wasn’t helmet to helmet, it wasn’t late, and he didn’t come down on him with his body weight.

**petegz28** · 12-10-2018, 08:30 AM

Teicher ranting this morning it was DPI. I thought it was close but Fuller appeared to be playing the ball. I have seen less called against us and worse not called for us, including the first drive of the game when Hill was held and it wasn't called.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2018, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

How was that a bad call? He clearly pushed off which is how he got separation and was able to make the catch?

It was not even close to pass interference.

Chiefs=Champions · 12-10-2018, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

I'm just reporting what I've observed with what has been called roughing the passer this year, and similar plays have been called often.

You are reporting incorrectly in this instance.

Iczer · 12-10-2018, 08:33 AM

For Mahomes being a superstar already, I'd say he's not even close to getting the superstar treatment. I can't count how many times he was hit and the defenders put their weight into him, which was getting called at an alarming rate earlier this season. Yet not one call.

**notorious** · 12-10-2018, 08:34 AM

He’s paying his dues.

RunKC · 12-10-2018, 08:35 AM

Bunch of pussy assed bitches. This is the Mahomes effect gentlemen. Make them bitches cry.

**** you Baltimore. Your tears are delicious!

staylor26 · 12-10-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It was not even close to pass interference.

Lol ok.

It was a clear push off which is the definition of OPI. Just because they don’t always call it doesn’t change that.

You wanna argue that they don’t always call it? Fine, but you’re a moron if you say it isn’t OPI according to the rule.

**Lzen** · 12-10-2018, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Officiating, as usual in today's NFL, was pretty atrocious for the entire game. The play in question was a penalty, not because of the contact right at the end of the play, that was actually a really good play by Fuller. No, it was a penalty because of the contact that occured just before that. Clear holding at best, PI at worst. Am I upset that it wasn't called? Nope. It wasn't out and out blatant, but is most often called, and you can't expect the refs to bail you out like that.

What I took more offense too was the blatant late hit on the QB by the Chiefs that knocked Jackson (I think it was that play) out of the game. First Chief had the QB down, and a second Chief essentially speared the QB with a pretty vicious hit that has consistently been called roughing all year. Now, Mahomes had several hits that should also have been called roughing. So it probably evens out.

That is completely incorrect. Jackson is very elusive. They can't call him down when he could escape. He's proven that he's very capable of that.

**notorious** · 12-10-2018, 08:37 AM

No way it’s roughing the passer.

**Lzen** · 12-10-2018, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

If that was in the pocket, yeah. Outside the pocket, with the ball tucked, he's not a QB anymore, he's a ball carrier.

Yeah, they tend to treat running QBs a little differently, and rightly so.

Randallflagg · 12-10-2018, 08:38 AM

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