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Old 12-09-2018, 11:37 PM   Topic Starter
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Ravens cry foul over noncall on final play of loss to Chiefs

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As Ravens quarterback Robert Griffin III dropped back to pass on what proved to be the final play of Sunday’s game, the odds were not good.

The Ravens were down a field goal in overtime. Starting quarterback Lamar Jackson was out with an ankle injury. Under two minutes remained. The team faced a fourth-and-22 from its 41-yard line. According to ESPN, the Kansas City Chiefs’ win probability was over 79 percent.

But after the pass fell incomplete and the 27-24 overtime loss was sealed, the Ravens were unhappy the game hadn’t lasted at least a play longer. Coach John Harbaugh, wide receiver Willie Snead IV and Griffin said the officials missed a pass-interference penalty on Chiefs cornerback and Baltimore native Kendall Fuller.

The penalty would’ve produced an automatic Ravens first down and kept alive their hopes for a game-tying field goal or game-winning touchdown.

“Yeah, I saw it,” Harbaugh said. “I think you guys should write what you see. You want us to get up here and criticize the officiating. You saw the officiating all day. You know what it was. You should write what you see. You don’t get fined for it, right?” (Coaches are subject to NFL fines for criticism of the officiating.)

Griffin said he didn’t have a chance to warm up before entering the game facing a third-and-22. His first throw was an incompletion, and after Jackson did not return to the huddle, the team’s third-string quarterback dropped back one final time.

He targeted Snead, running an out-breaking route close to the line to gain. “I was like, ‘I got a chance here,’ ” Snead recalled thinking. Had he made a sixth catch Sunday, the reception might have come up just short of the 37-yard line he needed to reach.

But he said he felt premature contact from Fuller, and Griffin saw the same.

“I mean, of course I did,” said Snead, who had a team-high 61 yards. “I thought that. At the end of the day, it’s out of my control. I got to catch the ball, but I felt like I would’ve been short anyways, but at the end of the day, there was contact. But it is what it is. You just got to learn from it and move on.”

He added: “There were calls we could’ve got all over the game, but at the end of the day, it came down to that play. I didn’t get the call. At the end of the day, I didn’t get the catch.”

Griffin, who said he hadn’t been able to watch a replay of the coverage, blamed himself for not throwing a better pass. But he pointed to the Ravens’ indignant sideline reaction as a reflection of his own perception of the noncall.

“I felt like Willie ran a great route and the DB got there a little early, and they didn't call it,” Griffin said. “It makes me feel a little bad. I feel like I let the team down in that situation. I was ready to go and I tried to do the best I could at that time. Just wish I could've done more."
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:39 PM   #2
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:40 PM   #3
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It was a clean play, and no way is it going to get called in that situation anyway.

But, we should be self aware enough to know that CP would be melting down about massive league-wide conspiracies to keep the Chiefs down if the situation had been reversed.
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:44 PM   #4
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Old 12-10-2018, 03:55 PM   #5
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It was a clean play, and no way is it going to get called in that situation anyway.

But, we should be self aware enough to know that CP would be melting down about massive league-wide conspiracies to keep the Chiefs down if the situation had been reversed.
It was not a clean play....contact was made and the db had both hands on him prior to receiving the pass. Why is it any different just because of the 'situation'? I was terrified for about 5 seconds after the play to see a flag on the play and it was a horrible feeling and completely unnecessary.

That said, you are right...in that situation, it would have been too obvious and had more people questioning the leagues legitimacy.

It's either bias or incompetence or a little of both, but these types of penalties are not called with any sort of consistency. Yep, KC got the call in their favor...the most penalized team in the league managed to avoid one call that would have obviously changed the game.
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:07 PM   #6
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It was not a clean play....contact was made and the db had both hands on him prior to receiving the pass. Why is it any different just because of the 'situation'? I was terrified for about 5 seconds after the play to see a flag on the play and it was a horrible feeling and completely unnecessary.

That said, you are right...in that situation, it would have been too obvious and had more people questioning the leagues legitimacy.

It's either bias or incompetence or a little of both, but these types of penalties are not called with any sort of consistency. Yep, KC got the call in their favor...the most penalized team in the league managed to avoid one call that would have obviously changed the game.
Yeah, but they are not usually going to throw a flag just for having your hands touching the other player. There's always some amount of contact before the ball gets there, and the officials have to make a judgement as to whether it interfered with the receiver's ability to catch the ball. They got that call right.

I don't see a difference between what the Ravens and Ravens fans are doing - crying about a no-call - than what we have made an industry out of on CP, crying about a no-call on almost every play from scrimmage all year long. We on this board are in a very elaborate glass house on this issue.
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They fail to mention all the roughing the passer calls not made that could have changed the game as well. Rose colored glasses.
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Good lord, that was 50/50 at best, and I really think that’s giving it some. I’ve seen worse not get called.
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:47 PM   #9
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Good lord, that was 50/50 at best, and I really think that’s giving it some. I’ve seen worse not get called.
This.

Maybe they should have stopped the Chiefs in those two fourth down plays instead of blaming a non-penalty that wasn’t called. Losers.
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Maybe they should have stopped the Chiefs in those two fourth down plays instead of blaming a non-penalty that wasn’t called. Losers.
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Maybe they should have stopped the Chiefs in those two fourth down plays instead of blaming a non-penalty that wasn’t called. Losers.
Yea lets also forget about the fact that the play shouldn't have even happened anyway. The Chiefs gifted them so many opportunities to stay in the game. Missed FG's, missed ints, stupid play calls and bad coaching decisions.

After all that they still lost **** them.
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Good lord, that was 50/50 at best, and I really think that’s giving it some. I’ve seen worse not get called.
Last play of the game, 4th and 23 is going to be called differently. I think they treat that situation as a hail mary type. Unless its really egregious, your not getting an interference call.
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Good lord, that was 50/50 at best, and I really think that’s giving it some. I’ve seen worse not get called.

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we've had to overcome so much with the refs this season, don't want to hear it.
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we've had to overcome so much with the refs this season, don't want to hear it.
Thread was over after this comment. ****ing deal with it, bitches.
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