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Old 02-09-2015, 07:18 AM  
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GRAMMYS Kanye West storms Grammy stage over Beck's surprise album of the year win




Rapper Kanye West reprised one of his most infamous stunts at Sunday night's Grammy awards, unexpectedly taking the Staples Center stage as Beck was accepting the album of the year award.

The singer-songwriter's win was the unquestioned shock of the night, as his "Morning Phase" album beat out both the night's top winner, Sam Smith, and the category's expected winner, Beyoncé.
Rapper Kanye West reprised one of his most infamous stunts at Sunday night's Grammy awards, unexpectedly taking the Staples Center stage as Beck was accepting the album of the year award.

The singer-songwriter's win was the unquestioned shock of the night, as his "Morning Phase" album beat out both the night's top winner, Sam Smith, and the category's expected winner, Beyoncé.

Beck seemed as surprised as the rest of the audience when he won the award and appeared to be looking around for help. That's when West popped up on stage and moved toward Beck as if he was about to take the trophy. Instead, West turned away and quickly jumped down, but not before getting guffaws from Beyoncé and her husband, Jay z


However, West wasn't laughing after the show, ranting that Beyoncé should have taken the gong for her self-titled album.

Appearing on the E! network's aftershow, West said, "I just know that the Grammys, if they want real artists to keep coming back, they need to stop playing with us. We ain't gonna play with them no more. And Beck needs to respect artistry and he should've given his award to Beyoncé.

"Because when you keep on diminishing art and not respecting the craft and smacking people in their face after they deliver monumental feats of music, you're disrespectful to inspiration," West continued. "And we as musicians have to inspire people who go to work every day, and they listen to that Beyoncé album and they feel like it takes them to another place."



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Old 02-16-2015, 04:25 PM   #376
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I think it's incredibly naive of people who overestimate what Beyonce' does.
Especially in comparison to what a guy like Beck does.
Who cares what Beyonce' "does" versus what Beck "does"?

It's about the final product. The songs.

It doesn't matter if it took 40 "Producers" or one. It doesn't matter if it took 100 musicians or one.

All that matters is the song. Period, end of story, bottom line.

And for the record, Beyonce's sold more 5,000,000 units to Beck's 300k. The public has obviously connected with her music.
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Old 02-16-2015, 04:26 PM   #377
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Beyonce' is EXTREMELY talented.......as a performer. That's what she IS....a performer.

A singer. A dancer.....a performer.
So what's your point?
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Old 02-16-2015, 04:31 PM   #378
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According to this narrative, Frank Sinatra was crap because he didn't write songs, needed an orchestrator, conductor and at least a 20 piece band in order to perform.

Also while Beck "Produced" his album, he had a team of TEN excellent recording engineers that also won a Grammy.

Pointing to Beyonce's team and stating that she's less talented or undeserving is utter nonsense.
Look a Beck's roots. Now Beyonce's.

The reason Beck has a team is because that shit is WORK.

Work that he now does not have to do as much of because he is rich and can pay people to it.
Work that Beyonce' NEVER had to do because she was/is just a performer.

Beck got rich because he is a musical genius who created some great music from scratch.
Beyonce got rich because because she had a perfect ass and was the hottest and most talented of destiny's child...a group of performers.
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And for the record, Beyonce's sold more 5,000,000 units to Beck's 300k. The public has obviously connected with her music.
I guess McDonald's makes the best hamburgers on earth, too.
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Who cares what Beyonce' "does" versus what Beck "does"?

It's about the final product. The songs.

It doesn't matter if it took 40 "Producers" or one. It doesn't matter if it took 100 musicians or one.

All that matters is the song. Period, end of story, bottom line.
The whole thread has been a debate over musical talent.

Beck is BY FAR the more talented musician.
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I guess McDonald's makes the best hamburgers on earth, too.
Wait... are you being sarcastic or something?

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Look a Beck's roots. Now Beyonce's.
Who cares?

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The reason Beck has a team is because that shit is WORK.
And producing a Beyonce album isn't work?

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Work that he now does not have to do as much of because he is rich and can pay people to it.
This is just absurd.

Artists are given funding to record, mix and master their records. That's the whole point of signing a record deal. Funding. Access to the best engineers and producers in the world.


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Work that Beyonce' NEVER had to do because she was/is just a performer.
Elvis. Frank. Dean. Sammy. Barbara Streisand.

"Just" performers.

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Beck got rich because he is a musical genius who created some great music from scratch.
More nonsense. Beck's music connected with people, not because "created it from scratch".

You have a lot of misconceptions.

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Beyonce got rich because because she had a perfect ass and was the hottest and most talented of destiny's child...a group of performers.
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The whole thread has been a debate over musical talent.

Beck is BY FAR the more talented musician.
There are hundreds of thousands of "talented musicians" the world over in symphonies, rock, alt, country, blues bands, etc. and so on.

That doesn't make them "better" than someone that can deliver a song like Beyonce'. That's just silly.
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More nonsense. Beck's music connected with people, not because "created it from scratch".

You have a lot of misconceptions.
You are not listening.
It's not the fact that Beck's music was created from scratch that it connected with people, no.

It's the fact that He Created It AND it connected with people, that make him the better musician.

Beyonce' didn't create a damn thing in Destiny's Child. She looked good, and sang good.

You really going to argue otherwise?
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You could probably go down to any Guitar Center and find someone better than Beyonce...
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There are hundreds of thousands of "talented musicians" the world over in symphonies, rock, alt, country, blues bands, etc. and so on.

That doesn't make them "better" than someone that can deliver a song like Beyonce'. That's just silly.
Put Beyonce' in beck's body...now what is she? Broke.

Put Beck in Beyonce's body. Now what is he? Still a great musician.
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You are not listening.
It's not the fact that Beck's music was created from scratch that it connected with people, no.

It's the fact that He Created It AND it connected with people, that make him the better musician.
The award wasn't for "Best Musician". It was for "Best Album". It's about the presentation, the songs and the artistry.

Being a multi-instrumentalist is proof of nothing.

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Beyonce' didn't create a damn thing in Destiny's Child. She looked good, and sang good.

You really going to argue otherwise?
I don't you understand anything about music or the music business.
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And for the record, I've spoken to several people, including major Artist management and NARAS members about the award show.

The general feeling is that Beck's Grammy win is akin to Martin Scorcese's Oscar win for The Departed, an overall career achievement award that was long overdue.

Many people I've spoken to think it's far from his best work.
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The award wasn't for "Best Musician". It was for "Best Album". It's about the presentation, the songs and the artistry.

Being a multi-instrumentalist is proof of nothing.
Again, Not the argument I was making.
But this statement pretty much says you agree with the argument that I was making.


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I don't you understand anything about music or the music business.
Never said or insinuated that
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