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Old 04-29-2006, 02:46 PM   #1
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To be fair....

STRONG POINTSHali is a very good athlete with the quick feet, agility and burst to make plays all over the field. When he rushes the quarterback aggressively, he can jolt the offensive tackle and can either drive him backwards into the quarterback's lap or he can beat him with a very good club or swim move. Despite lacking a burst off the ball, once he gets going he has the playing speed to out race the offensive tackle around the corner. He does a good job ob playing with leverage vs. run blocks, can stack the point of attack, sheds the block and make tackles. He is very good at chasing down running plays in backside pursuit.

ATHLETIC ABILITYSection Grade: 6.5Hali is a very good athlete, which is a big reason he was a productive college defensive end despite a lack of experience at the position. He has very quick feet -- on runs away, he can accelerate to full speed in a flash and has the speed to chase down the ball carrier. He has good natural flexibility to bend his knees and play with leverage and a good base, but he does not show it consistently. His combination of very quick feet and agility help him to change directions and burst in the other direction when he keeps his knees bent and plays with leverage. He is a coordinated athlete who never loses his balance and keeps his feet vs. low blocks well. At times, however, he is robotic in his movement and does not seem natural moving and adjusting.

MENTAL ALERTNESSSection Grade: 5.5Hali is a smart young man who has remarkably good technique vs. blockers (both run blocks and rushing the quarterback) for a player who did not grow up in America. The thing that holds him back most are his lack of football instincts -- he does not explode off the ball as a pass rusher and often ends up standing still trying to identify the play before he gets moving. His high level of concentration helps him to consistently play with excellent effort on every snap despite not always knowing where to go.
What was his 40 time out of curiosity?
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:47 PM   #2
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What was his 40 time out of curiosity?
4.7ish if I remember right
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:42 PM   #3
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:42 PM   #4
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TAMBA HALI!!!

This is the guy I've wanted for the Chiefs all along. Would I have been happier to get him around pick 30 after a trade down? Of course. But I bet he would have been snatched before that.
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:43 PM   #5
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before I read the thread,my thoughts:

Hali is everything Siavi isn't....produced at a big school at a big conference, and his work ethic is unqestioned....he has come from circumstances that make him humble and hungry....he is exactly the type of guy Herm told us he'd draft...

did we reach a little? yeah...

did we fill a position of need? yeah...

how good will he be? don't know...

I'm happy with this pick...he isn't a project and we didn't draft for "potential"....

no reason to be that upset, imho
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:49 PM   #6
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before I read the thread,my thoughts:

Hali is everything Siavi isn't....produced at a big school at a big conference, and his work ethic is unqestioned....he has come from circumstances that make him humble and hungry....he is exactly the type of guy Herm told us he'd draft...

did we reach a little? yeah...

did we fill a position of need? yeah...

how good will he be? don't know...

I'm happy with this pick...he isn't a project and we didn't draft for "potential"....

no reason to be that upset, imho
good post. my thoughts mirror TC's..the mitigating factor could be Krumrie.

Two motor guys on the ends? I like it.
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good post. my thoughts mirror TC's..the mitigating factor could be Krumrie.

Two motor guys on the ends? I like it.
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:51 PM   #8
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before I read the thread,my thoughts:

Hali is everything Siavi isn't....produced at a big school at a big conference, and his work ethic is unqestioned....he has come from circumstances that make him humble and hungry....he is exactly the type of guy Herm told us he'd draft...

did we reach a little? yeah...

did we fill a position of need? yeah...

how good will he be? don't know...

I'm happy with this pick...he isn't a project and we didn't draft for "potential"....

no reason to be that upset, imho

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Old 04-27-2007, 09:54 AM   #9
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before I read the thread,my thoughts:

Hali is everything Siavi isn't....produced at a big school at a big conference, and his work ethic is unqestioned....he has come from circumstances that make him humble and hungry....he is exactly the type of guy Herm told us he'd draft...

did we reach a little? yeah...

did we fill a position of need? yeah...

how good will he be? don't know...

I'm happy with this pick...he isn't a project and we didn't draft for "potential"....

no reason to be that upset, imho
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before I read the thread,my thoughts:

Hali is everything Siavi isn't....produced at a big school at a big conference, and his work ethic is unqestioned....he has come from circumstances that make him humble and hungry....he is exactly the type of guy Herm told us he'd draft...

did we reach a little? yeah...

did we fill a position of need? yeah...

how good will he be? don't know...

I'm happy with this pick...he isn't a project and we didn't draft for "potential"....

no reason to be that upset, imho
hmmm...suspiciously non-committal...as if i knew this thread would come back to haunt...
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hmmm...suspiciously non-committal...as if i knew this thread would come back to haunt...
Haunt is a very strong word. He's not an LJ or Bowe, but he isn't a Sims, Freeman, or Siavii-level bust by any stretch, either.

Also, Eric ****ing Hicks was a starter when this pick was made. Holy shit. Holy shit.
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Haunt is a very strong word. He's not an LJ or Bowe, but he isn't a Sims, Freeman, or Siavii-level bust by any stretch, either.

Also, Eric ****ing Hicks was a starter when this pick was made. Holy shit. Holy shit.
The sad thing is that Eric ****ing Hicks has achieved more than Tamba Hali.
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:44 PM   #13
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I do not understand the whole "he was a reach, he should have gone 10 picks lower" mentality. If you do not have someone in that range to trade down with and it is a player/position you want, how is it a reach? If you don't "reach", you don't get the player you want. Just because the "experts" don't agree with the value, if it is what you need, it is a decent pick.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:45 PM   #14
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I do not understand the whole "he was a reach, he should have gone 10 picks lower" mentality. If you do not have someone in that range to trade down with and it is a player/position you want, how is it a reach? If you don't "reach", you don't get the player you want. Just because the "experts" don't agree with the value, if it is what you need, it is a decent pick.
I am no draft expert like some, but I like the pick even though its not a sexy one.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:47 PM   #15
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I am no draft expert like some, but I like the pick even though its not a sexy one.
Yeah, I agree. It may have not been a sexy one, but it could have been a hell alot worse.
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