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Old 01-05-2013, 07:47 AM   #1
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Give me a ****ing break. Anyone who wants to criticize Clark at this point is a ****ing idiot beyond reprieve. He went out 4 years ago and hired THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. How was he to know it wouldn't work out? He couldn't possibly. And the second it became apparent that it was a dumpster fire, he sidelined his personal feelings, dumped everyone, and went out and HIRED THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. All at great expense to himself, and his family. **** you assholes. Clark Hunt is a GREAT owner.
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Give me a ****ing break. Anyone who wants to criticize Clark at this point is a ****ing idiot beyond reprieve. He went out 4 years ago and hired THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. How was he to know it wouldn't work out? He couldn't possibly. And the second it became apparent that it was a dumpster fire, he sidelined his personal feelings, dumped everyone, and went out and HIRED THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. All at great expense to himself, and his family. **** you assholes. Clark Hunt is a GREAT owner.
Who is criticizing him? I have not read anyone doing so on this thread?

He made a great hire after addressing a long standing error. Yeah! Yippee! Congrats, Clark! Anything more than that recognition is going overboard, IMO.

I know our standards of success have been depleted in this town but let's not forget that we were filled with the same hope and faith four years ago. Let's enjoy it for what it is a good FIRST STEP.
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Who is criticizing him? I have not read anyone doing so on this thread?

He made a great hire after addressing a long standing error. Yeah! Yippee! Congrats, Clark! Anything more than that recognition is going overboard. I know our standards of success have been depleted in this town but let's not forget that we were filled with the same hope and faith four years ago.

Let's enjoy it for what it is a good FIRST STEP.
What more can Clark Hunt do? Why should he not be praised as a great owner for spending the money to fix what's wrong? People insinuating he shouldn't be praised and congratulated are asinine. He spent a ton of money to fix a mistake. And it's money he didn't have to spend. He could've kept Pioli and let him hire another guy, and try to draft a franchise QB. All reports were that was what he wanted to do. But he didn't. Because he recognized that Pioli was a pariah in this league. So he spent the money and not only fixed it, but went straight to work to hire his guy. Jumped in front of Arizona, and spent 9 hours selling the Chiefs to Andy Reid. AFAIC, he's one of, if not the very best owner in this league. I'll be dangling off of Clark's nutsack for at least the next 4-5 years. Happily.
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What more can Clark Hunt do? Why should he not be praised as a great owner for spending the money to fix what's wrong? People insinuating he shouldn't be praised and congratulated are asinine. He spent a ton of money to fix a mistake. And it's money he didn't have to spend. He could've kept Pioli and let him hire another guy, and try to draft a franchise QB. All reports were that was what he wanted to do. But he didn't. Because he recognized that Pioli was a pariah in this league. So he spent the money and not only fixed it, but went straight to work to hire his guy. Jumped in front of Arizona, and spent 9 hours selling the Chiefs to Andy Reid. AFAIC, he's one of, if not the very best owner in this league. I'll be dangling off of Clark's nutsack for at least the next 4-5 years. Happily.
Again, he did a great job removing the cancer and BEGINNING the healing with Reid. He has pledged to become more involved and not just an absentee owner. We have to see how he balances that duty, who he signs off on as GM, how the draft goes for starters.

Throwing money at a problem is not always the way to fix it. Remember the elation of the Pioli signing just four years ago. This place feels very similar though the number of 'wait and seers' seems to be higher for obvious reasons.

One can be thrilled for the hire but not yet ready to throw a party or shower Hunt with accolades for fixing a mess he helped create.

If you were dangling four years ago then Clark's nut sack must be pretty droopy by now....
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Again, he did a great job removing the cancer and BEGINNING the healing with Reid. He has pledged to become more involved and not just an absentee own signs of on as GM, how the draft goes for starters.

Remember the elation of the Pioli signing just four years ago. This place feels very similar though the number of 'wait and seers' seems to be higher for obvious reasons.

One can be thrilled for the hire but not yet ready to throw a party or shower Hunt with accolades for fixing a mess he helped create.
How did he help create it? How? The guy is not, and should not, be Jerry ****ing Jones. He hired someone whom he, and many others around the league, thought was qualified to run football operations, and then stayed the **** out of the way. Like he's supposed too.

It didn't work out, and he's doing it again, only this time with a coach instead of a GM. Do you think he should decide who to draft? Maybe he should hold polls and let the fans decide?

He's doing EVERYTHING he's supposed to do, and no more. As far as the wait and see'ers go, well, everyone's earned the right. But Clark Hunt is NOT the problem. He's a Goddamned saint as far as I'm concerned. Because he clearly gives a shit about football.
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How did he help create it? How? The guy is not, and should not, be Jerry ****ing Jones. He hired someone whom he, and many others around the league, thought was qualified to run football operations, and then stayed the **** out of the way. Like he's supposed too.

It didn't work out, and he's doing it again, only this time with a coach instead of a GM. Do you think he should decide who to draft? Maybe he should hold polls and let the fans decide?

He's doing EVERYTHING he's supposed to do, and no more. As far as the wait and see'ers go, well, everyone's earned the right. But Clark Hunt is NOT the problem. He's a Goddamned saint as far as I'm concerned. Because he clearly gives a shit about football.
By throwing money at the problem and then walking away until it was obvious the situation was hitting him in the pocket book.

Look, Pioli and Crennel would both still be here if the Chiefs were mediocre and still selling out. That is a FACT. It would be seen as progress and both would be given extensions not pink slips.

So while some want to bestow saint status on Clark others have been here/done that and are happy to wait and see how things go before we take Clark completely out of the dog house.
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By throwing money at the problem and then walking away until it was obvious the situation was hitting him in the pocket book.

Look, Pioli and Crennel would both still be here if the Chiefs were mediocre and still selling out. That would be seen as progress and both would be given extensions not pink slips.
You're speculating on what might have happened. There is no proof to back that up. None. I choose to be optimistic.
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The Reid hire is a step in the right direction, but I'm mostly impressed by Clark admitting his mistake and dropping a shit ton of coin to clean house. As someone who is a fan of both teams in the parking lot, constantly hearing about the OH NOES THA MONEYYY! taxes me as a fan literally and figuratively. What it cost Clark to fumigate Arrowhead and what it's going to cost to restaff it does not go unnoticed by me.
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The Reid hire is a step in the right direction, but I'm mostly impressed by Clark admitting his mistake and dropping a shit ton of coin to clean house. As someone who is a fan of both teams in the parking lot, constantly hearing about the OH NOES THA MONEYYY! taxes me as a fan literally and figuratively. What it cost Clark to fumigate Arrowhead and what it's going to cost to restaff it does not go unnoticed by me.
So we go from being pissed off as hell at a guy who was nearly 26.6 million below salary cap to elated and nut sack dangling because he dropped a cool few million to get rid of a problem he helped create?
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What more can Clark Hunt do? Why should he not be praised as a great owner for spending the money to fix what's wrong? People insinuating he shouldn't be praised and congratulated are asinine. He spent a ton of money to fix a mistake. And it's money he didn't have to spend. He could've kept Pioli and let him hire another guy, and try to draft a franchise QB. All reports were that was what he wanted to do. But he didn't. Because he recognized that Pioli was a pariah in this league. So he spent the money and not only fixed it, but went straight to work to hire his guy. Jumped in front of Arizona, and spent 9 hours selling the Chiefs to Andy Reid. AFAIC, he's one of, if not the very best owner in this league. I'll be dangling off of Clark's nutsack for at least the next 4-5 years. Happily.
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Give me a ****ing break. Anyone who wants to criticize Clark at this point is a ****ing idiot beyond reprieve. He went out 4 years ago and hired THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. How was he to know it wouldn't work out? He couldn't possibly. And the second it became apparent that it was a dumpster fire, he sidelined his personal feelings, dumped everyone, and went out and HIRED THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. All at great expense to himself, and his family. **** you assholes. Clark Hunt is a GREAT owner.
Totally Agree! Clark deserves alot of credit. He went aggressively after a proven coach. He could have sat at his desk and waited for the interview to happen in KC but Charted a plane and went after his prize. Bravo!
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Totally Agree! Clark deserves alot of credit. He went aggressively after a proven coach. He could have sat at his desk and waited for the interview to happen in KC but Charted a plane and went after his prize. Bravo!
Why?

Is his personal jet in the shop or something?
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Give me a ****ing break. Anyone who wants to criticize Clark at this point is a ****ing idiot beyond reprieve. He went out 4 years ago and hired THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. How was he to know it wouldn't work out? He couldn't possibly. And the second it became apparent that it was a dumpster fire, he sidelined his personal feelings, dumped everyone, and went out and HIRED THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. All at great expense to himself, and his family. **** you assholes. Clark Hunt is a GREAT owner.
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Give me a ****ing break. Anyone who wants to criticize Clark at this point is a ****ing idiot beyond reprieve. He went out 4 years ago and hired THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. How was he to know it wouldn't work out? He couldn't possibly. And the second it became apparent that it was a dumpster fire, he sidelined his personal feelings, dumped everyone, and went out and HIRED THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. All at great expense to himself, and his family. **** you assholes. Clark Hunt is a GREAT owner.
I want to make a correction.

I'm not convinced Hunt did the research on either Pioli or Reid.

I think he went out and signed the biggest name he could. That's as much about optics as it is about results. The best guy isn't always the biggest name.

I've defended Clark from the beginning. Most of the criticisms levied against him don't hold water unless they want an Al Davis/Dan Snyder/Jerry Jones owner pretending to be a GM. I sure as hell don't.
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