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Old 01-27-2017, 06:50 PM   #1
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Sucks that this year's QB offerings are going to be inflated. Mahomes will be overvalued, and there's no way Dorsey is going to package a deal to reach for him. I wouldn't, and I want a QB more than anything else.
Chiefs are just damned when it comes to QB's.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:36 AM   #2
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Sucks that this year's QB offerings are going to be inflated. Mahomes will be overvalued, and there's no way Dorsey is going to package a deal to reach for him. I wouldn't, and I want a QB more than anything else.
Chiefs are just damned when it comes to QB's.
I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:41 AM   #3
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I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.
Sounds good to me. Hope for the best!
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:15 PM   #4
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I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.
There is absolutely no way Watson is available at #27 and with as much buzz as Mahomes has been receiving lately, it's not even assured that he'll be there at #27.

Watson will be off the charts at the Combines. If Mahomes throws well and checks out, he'll rise as well.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:52 PM   #5
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There is absolutely no way Watson is available at #27 and with as much buzz as Mahomes has been receiving lately, it's not even assured that he'll be there at #27.

Watson will be off the charts at the Combines. If Mahomes throws well and checks out, he'll rise as well.
I don't disagree. The lowest I've seen Watson go in a mock draft was 25. Would just take one team passing on him (based on that one draft... I know) for him to be available. That said... I doubt he will be there.

I'm still crossing my fingers for Mahomes at 27 or a small trade up to go get him.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:33 PM   #6
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I don't disagree. The lowest I've seen Watson go in a mock draft was 25. Would just take one team passing on him (based on that one draft... I know) for him to be available. That said... I doubt he will be there.

I'm still crossing my fingers for Mahomes at 27 or a small trade up to go get him.
Mahomes would be a major score for KC. "Win now" with Smith has gone as far as it's going to go, the Chiefs need to start thinking of the future.
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:35 PM   #7
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Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:16 PM   #8
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Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.
We could have Gronk and Kelce at Tight End and Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, and Antonio Brown as our 3 WR's and our offense wouldn't be consistently effective
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:30 PM   #9
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Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.
Howard is going to explode up boards.

He MIGHT go top 10 by the time it's all said and done. He's an absolute monster.
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:40 PM   #10
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If all the QB's are gone in the first round, I think you look at the best pass rusher on the board.

Charles Harris, Caleb Brantley, Ryan Anderson, Montravious Adams, Jordan Willis, etc

If you can't find a QB, pass rush is he next important piece and we all know it was a problem last year.

Then you have to scout the field and see if Nathan Peterman, Jerod Evans, Davis Webb etc would even be worth taking in rd 2.
All of this
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:30 AM   #11
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27. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri

The Chiefs could go in a ton of directions with this pick, and it wouldn't surprise me if they moved down as a result of Quenton Nelson returning to Notre Dame. If the Chiefs stay put, they could consider a talented pass-rusher. Sure, they already have Justin Houston, Tamba Hali and Dee Ford, but Hali won't be around much longer, while Ford is entering his contract year. Ford could command more money on the open market than the Chiefs are willing to pay him, and if so, this new edge rusher will come in handy.

59. Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh

Andy Reid committed to Alex Smith for next season, but that doesn't mean that he won't spend an early-round selection on a quarterback to eventually take over for his mediocre starter.

91. Montravius Adams, DE/DT, Auburn

Andy Reid loves bolstering the trenches, and I imagine he'll do so after seeing his defense get gashed against the run all year.

122. Duke Riley, LB, LSU

Derrick Johnson is a 34-year-old coming off a torn Achilles that he suffered in December. It's highly unlikely that he'll be ready for the 2017 campaign, so the Chiefs need to find a new inside linebacker to play next to Ramik Wilson.
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Old 02-08-2017, 03:48 PM   #12
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27. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri

The Chiefs could go in a ton of directions with this pick, and it wouldn't surprise me if they moved down as a result of Quenton Nelson returning to Notre Dame. If the Chiefs stay put, they could consider a talented pass-rusher. Sure, they already have Justin Houston, Tamba Hali and Dee Ford, but Hali won't be around much longer, while Ford is entering his contract year. Ford could command more money on the open market than the Chiefs are willing to pay him, and if so, this new edge rusher will come in handy.

59. Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh

Andy Reid committed to Alex Smith for next season, but that doesn't mean that he won't spend an early-round selection on a quarterback to eventually take over for his mediocre starter.

91. Montravius Adams, DE/DT, Auburn

Andy Reid loves bolstering the trenches, and I imagine he'll do so after seeing his defense get gashed against the run all year.

122. Duke Riley, LB, LSU

Derrick Johnson is a 34-year-old coming off a torn Achilles that he suffered in December. It's highly unlikely that he'll be ready for the 2017 campaign, so the Chiefs need to find a new inside linebacker to play next to Ramik Wilson.
We get a 5th year option on Ford right? So we really control him for two more seasons.
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Old 02-08-2017, 04:31 PM   #13
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Go through Campbell's mock on that sight, he has Watson falling into the low 50's, the Chiefs taking an undersized slot receiver in the first, and Corey Davis going two picks after us.
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Old 02-08-2017, 04:20 PM   #15
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I tend to agree.

Pros: Good pocket presence, athletic, strong runner, above average arm strength.

Cons: Never has had more than 193 completions in a season. Has never been asked to throw a lot at all as he comes from a Power Run offense and we happen to have some ??? at RB. Will need a lot of work on his accuracy if he will become anything in the NFL.

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