Football Beef between Brady and Garoppolo?

Skyy God · 09-30-2014, 10:22 AM

I think it's pretty clear Hoodie drafted Garoppolo with an eye to the future..... maybe Brady sees the writing on the wall.

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The Patriots were bad, bad, bad last night, getting beaten soundly on both sides of the ball in a 41-14 road thumping at the hands of the Chiefs. But a good part of the attention is naturally going to settle on Tom Brady, who's been so consistently great over the course of his career that this season's very real slump has reached a worrisome length. But if Bill Belichick is worried—or if he's making plans for the future—he's not talking.

Brady was 14-for-23 for just 159 yards last night, with three turnovers to boot. It was a blowout by the time he left in favor of second-round pick and presumable QB of the future Jimmy Garoppolo, and Garoppolo was playing against a second-unit defense, but the Pats looked like a totally different team. Garoppolo was 6-for-7, including a lightning-fast and crisply efficient 81-yard touchdown drive. If you put much into body language, the offense's return to the sidelines provided plenty of fodder:

Tom Brady gave passive high-fives to the other offensive players coming off the field — Gronk, Julian Edelman, the offensive linemen — but stayed clear of Garoppolo. Brady didn't offer him any congratulations or daps.

When they returned to the bench, McDaniels sat in between them — Brady on the bench, Garoppolo on a water cooler. The two quarterbacks didn't appear to speak. Brady watched the rest of the game silently with his arms folded, with no teammate coming within 20 feet of him.

You can't blame him for being pissed. It was a disastrous game in what's threatening to be a disastrous season, and at age 37, the arrow's trending in the wrong direction. So one brave reporter (CSN New England's Michael Giardi) asked Belichick at his press conference what everybody else was thinking: has Brady been bad enough, and did Garoppolo look sharp enough, to justify thinking about a change?

(It's a great question. Not because the Patriots will or should think about benching Brady now—that'd be insane—but because it was worth seeing how Belichick would react.)

Bill Belichick was asked after the game if the quarterback position would be evaluated by the Patriots this week. Belichick was dismissive, chuckling briefly, at the question. It was the only question he didn't answer in his nine-minute press conference.

This team has deeper problems than at quarterback. The offensive line has multiple rookies, the receiver stockpile hasn't been adequately replenished in years, and just last month the Patriots shipped Logan Mankins out of town because he wouldn't take a pay cut. All of this has to be especially frustrating for Brady, because he has repeatedly restructured his own deal to free up cap space to, in theory, get him more protection and more weapons. Instead, he's last in the NFL in completion percentage on passes of more than 10 yards, and second worst in the league in off-target percentage.

Brady's last restructuring, before the 2013 season, gave him a short-term raise in exchange for future flexibility for New England. If he's on the roster at the end of this year, his next three seasons become fully guaranteed at $7M, $8M, and $9M, all incredibly cheap salaries. When that contract was negotiated, it was assumed that Brady would restructure again after 2014 if he remained an elite QB. That's probably not going to happen now, so after this Patriots season—which is indisputably Brady's, in a mediocre division where ten wins should do it—he seems likely to become a desirable and affordable trade chip. The Patriot Way brooks no sentimentality.

http://deadspin.com/dont-ask-bill-be...his-1640694471

**RealSNR** · 09-30-2014, 10:26 AM

Janeane Garafalo got her TD in garbage time when we didn't give a shit. There's a difference.

I think if Brady were a more mobile QB he would have had a lot more success, and that's why Garafalo looked better.

But he's not a better QB now nor is he a better QB for the rest of the season. That's utter BS.

Maybe when Tom turns 38 next year it might change. But until then, no.

**Buehler445** · 09-30-2014, 10:29 AM

Brady is a bitch. Oh he's so professional and shit when they are blowing bitches out, but he gets a shitty ass line for 4 games and he's 5.

Every Chiefs QB since Vermiel left says, "Suck it up bitch." BTW

I was really disappointed in how much of bitches they were. They were trying to start fights after damn near every snap, and they cried like ****ing bitches.

We've been blown out a hell of a lot (unfortunately) since Squirmin Herman managed to dumbass his way into Arrowhead, and we've been dejected a lot, but man, the Patriots are bitches.

Beef Supreme · 09-30-2014, 10:30 AM

Tom has every reason to be pissed off and have a bad attitude. He took a pay cut so they could put other players on the field, and the organization has rewarded that with dogshit. But his bad attitude has lost him his team. They don't want to play for him.

**Buehler445** · 09-30-2014, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Janeane Garafalo got her TD in garbage time when we didn't give a shit. There's a difference.

I think if Brady were a more mobile QB he would have had a lot more success, and that's why Garafalo looked better.

But he's not a better QB now nor is he a better QB for the rest of the season. That's utter BS.

Maybe when Tom turns 38 next year it might change. But until then, no.

Pretty much this. I didn't realize he was THAT immobile. He moves within the pocket so damn well, but outside of the pocket he can't do anything. Ever.

It really is a testamant to how consistent his OL has been. They weren't ever dominant like Roaf Shields and Co., but it is miraculous the dude hasn't had to deal with a consistently shitty pocket until now.

Mr. Laz · 09-30-2014, 10:34 AM

thunderdome

2 men enter, 1 man leave

hopefully they will both kill each other so we can sit back and laugh at Belichek

Frosty · 09-30-2014, 10:36 AM

It would be humorous if Brady gets "Drew Bledsoe-d".

stumppy · 09-30-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Brady is a bitch. Oh he's so professional and shit when they are blowing bitches out, but he gets a shitty ass line for 4 games and he's 5.

Every Chiefs QB since Vermiel left says, "Suck it up bitch." BTW

I was really disappointed in how much of bitches they were. They were trying to start fights after damn near every snap, and they cried like ****ing bitches.

We've been blown out a hell of a lot (unfortunately) since Squirmin Herman managed to dumbass his way into Arrowhead, and we've been dejected a lot, but man, the Patriots are bitches.

I think a lot of that behaviour goes back to their coach.

Eleazar · 09-30-2014, 10:40 AM

What a moronic article. Garofalo came in and faced a prevent defense.

Basically, some deadspin clown saw the shot of him sitting on the water cooler and tried to make a whole TMZ-esque gossip column out of it.

Why Not? · 09-30-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

What a moronic article. Garofalo came in and faced a prevent defense.

Basically, some deadspin clown saw the shot of him sitting on the water cooler and tried to make a whole TMZ-esque gossip column out of it.

This. The question about the QB position was idiotic, and Bellicheck actually responded appropriately, I thought

siberian khatru · 09-30-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

What a moronic article. Garofalo came in and faced a prevent defense.

Basically, some deadspin clown saw the shot of him sitting on the water cooler and tried to make a whole TMZ-esque gossip column out of it.

ALEX GORDON FOLDED HIS ARMS

TLO · 09-30-2014, 10:45 AM

Roast beef?

Eleazar · 09-30-2014, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

This. The question about the QB position was idiotic, and Bellicheck actually responded appropriately, I thought

If a reporter asks a stupid question and the coach treats it as such, I don't have a problem with that.

all ESPN cares about from last night is "they took brady out. they took brady out. they took brady out. they took brady out. they took brady out. they took brady out. they took brady out. "

Halfcan · 09-30-2014, 10:49 AM

When they returned to the bench, McDaniels sat in between them — Brady on the bench, Garoppolo on a water cooler. The two quarterbacks didn't appear to speak. Brady watched the rest of the game silently with his arms folded, with no teammate coming within 20 feet of him.

I think the team got tired of his crying-Tom terrific bitched at them nonstop. He sat on the bench and pouted but that didn't keep the announcers from talking about how great he is. Just once why couldn't they be honest and say "Wow Tom is acting like a Dbag to his teammates??" Instead it was about his desire to win?

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-30-2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

What a moronic article. Garofalo came in and faced a prevent defense.

Janeane?

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Beef Supreme MVP Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $10019560	Tom has every reason to be pissed off and have a bad attitude. He took a pay cut so they could put other players on the field, and the organization has rewarded that with dogshit. But his bad attitude has lost him his team. They don't want to play for him.
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	When they returned to the bench, McDaniels sat in between them — Brady on the bench, Garoppolo on a water cooler. The two quarterbacks didn't appear to speak. Brady watched the rest of the game silently with his arms folded, with no teammate coming within 20 feet of him. I think the team got tired of his crying-Tom terrific bitched at them nonstop. He sat on the bench and pouted but that didn't keep the announcers from talking about how great he is. Just once why couldn't they be honest and say "Wow Tom is acting like a Dbag to his teammates??" Instead it was about his desire to win?
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