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Why do you suppose we didn't see much of him, sport?

Must've been that we were trying to keep him under wraps to unleash him on an unsuspecting league, right?

Nelson's not a good football player.
It's telling how they felt about his development though, when it came to the playoff game when the Texans were still very well in the game, they put him out there instead of any of our other CB's to defend Hopkins 1 on 1 in the redzone.

You can talk about Flemming all you want, but that's a good sign that they felt he got better as the year went on. The fact that he was active for that game alone was a sign of that.

He was essentially redshirted to learn the nickel spot.
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And his steadiness opposite of Peters allowed Sutton and Peters to be much more aggressive, IMO. That's why Trumaine was a much better fit for us than Jenkins would be and why I was so disappointed to see Johnson get the tag instead.

At this point I think the Chiefs have to let Smith go - they can't afford to give the guy a deal that pays a 29 yr old corner with fringe athleticism big money for the next 3 years, nor do they have the immediate liquidity to front-load a deal enough to make it more attractive than what he can get on the market.

But I'd have loved to see him back for 1 via the franchise tag.
I know you were a proponent of tagging him, but/and maybe I'm being a little bit of a pessimist here, but he doesn't seem like the guy who'd be overly happy to do it or would do it.

Him not trying to appeal that 4 game DUI suspension didn't seem right, like maybe a little fear of being injured before the FA period itis. Either way, worked out great for them.

In the end, the stars are aligning for the Chiefs to have to take a CB pretty early again. With peters and his aggression/risk/reward style, I don't like having a rookie opposite him.
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It's telling how they felt about his development though, when it came to the playoff game when the Texans were still very well in the game, they put him out there instead of any of our other CB's to defend Hopkins 1 on 1 in the redzone.

You can talk about Flemming all you want, but that's a good sign that they felt he got better as the year went on. The fact that he was active for that game alone was a sign of that.

He was essentially redshirted to learn the nickel spot.
He played zero snaps against the Patriots as they were busy torching Branch, Abdullah and whoever else we tried to put at the NCB.

Was it a good sign that they buried him again? Or that in the last 6 weeks of the regular season, he played all of 4 defensive snaps?

There's really nothing to indicate that he improved as the season went on. His playing time doesn't suggest it and one play in coverage on Hopkins doesn't suggest it.

Like Gaines - if you trust him to start next season, it's based on absolutely nothing but blind faith. There's not a single thing in his performance or use rate last season that suggests he's ready to be a player in this league or that he ever will be.
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He played zero snaps against the Patriots as they were busy torching Branch, Abdullah and whoever else we tried to put at the NCB.

Was it a good sign that they buried him again? Or that in the last 6 weeks of the regular season, he played all of 4 defensive snaps?

There's really nothing to indicate that he improved as the season went on. His playing time doesn't suggest it and one play in coverage on Hopkins doesn't suggest it.

Like Gaines - if you trust him to start next season, it's based on absolutely nothing but blind faith. There's not a single thing in his performance or use rate last season that suggests he's ready to be a player in this league or that he ever will be.
That was at nickel, where they obviously don't feel he's ready. Hence why I mentioned redshirting him. In the Texans game, they threw him out there because he was on the outside where he likely feels more comfortable.

Good thing we aren't the front office/coaching staff, as they've had time in practice for an entire season to see what they have in him and make that decision themselves.

I clearly stated I would prefer to sign a guy like Lane that can be insurance for both guys and compete for both jobs, so I don't know why you're even arguing with me here.

As for Gaines, I have no doubt he can get the job done if he stays healthy. His biggest concern is health.
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Maybe they decide to replace SS with a guy like Brent Grimes, Pac Man or Lane...of course they could always see what it would take to get a guy like Jenkins.
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Jeremy Lane.

Gaines is probably Smith's replacement at the end of the day though, and I'm fine with that as long as we get somebody else like Lane for insurance.
We should probably find a replacement for Gaines, then, because that dude is only slightly more durable than Sanders Commings.

Right now I wouldn't trust Gaines to guard a bucket of shit for the team, much less own a starting role on defense. Not until he proves he's not made of glass.
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Good thing we aren't the front office/coaching staff, as they've had time in practice for an entire season to see what they have in him and make that decision themselves.
Indeed they have.

And they chose to let him on the field for all of 50 more defensive snaps than you or I got...
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Indeed they have.

And they chose to let him on the field for all of 50 more defensive snaps than you or I got...
Ok you're right, career over for him. He wasn't ready to be our nickel last year, so he's obviously never going to be. Might as well cut him now.

You're acting like a real ****ing tool.
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Maybe they decide to replace SS with a guy like Brent Grimes, Pac Man or Lane...of course they could always see what it would take to get a guy like Jenkins.
if they go the old veteran route then give me Leon Hall
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I'm a bit concerned for our run defense, TBH.

Just the possibility of going from Hali, DJ, Howard, Devito, SS and Abdullah/Branch to Ford, March, King, Williams, Gaines and who knows what at safety is a bit unnerving.
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Ok you're right, career over for him. He wasn't ready to be our nickel last year, so he's obviously never going to be. Might as well cut him now.

You're acting like a real ****ing tool.
He never said that, anointing him a starter is quite optimistic based on his on the field performance.
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He never said that, anointing him a starter is quite optimistic based on his on the field performance.
He knocked a ball down against Hopkins don't forget.
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Ok you're right, career over for him. He wasn't ready to be our nickel last year, so he's obviously never going to be. Might as well cut him now.

You're acting like a real ****ing tool.
And you're going into the same posture you always go when someone disagrees with you: bitchy little school girl.

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He never said that, anointing him a starter is quite optimistic based on his on the field performance.
Where the **** did I anoint him as a starter?

He on the other hand implied it with his "not a good football player" statement, and lack of consideration that he might possibly be the guy they feel is our nickel.

He's talking in absolutes. Not me. Learn to ****ing read.
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