**** Official FA & Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread ****

[Discuss Thrower]

The #Raiders have turned their attention to #KCChiefs free agent Sean Smith, with Janoris Jenkins off the market. But KC isn't out of it yet

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 9, 2016

Spoiler!

Heard the #49ers have had talks with KC about acquiring De'Anthony Thomas in a trade

— John Middlekauff (@JohnMiddlekauff) March 7, 2016

#Chiefs free-agency tracker: I’m hearing K.C. has expressed interest in a free-agent WR: https://t.co/OrPgzX3jVs pic.twitter.com/BNXfot07kQ

— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 7, 2016

As I wrote in Friday's #ScoutingNotebook, I'm told the #Chiefs have no interest in RGIII.

— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) March 7, 2016

Non-Chiefs rumors:

Spoiler!

Report: The Dolphins are interested in trading for Eagles CB Byron Maxwell https://t.co/Z5RZmIYtlg pic.twitter.com/LRt2UneCaA

— NBC Sports (@NBCSports) March 7, 2016

This is a surprise: #Jets QB Ryan Fitzpatrick is expected to hit the free agent market, sources say. Sides are far apart on a potential deal

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 7, 2016

#Eagles have made it known that it's not just DeMarco Murray who is available, but also Ryan Mathews, as well, for the right price.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 7, 2016

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

What a bunch of whiny bitches already....wow

The 2014 offseason says hi.

The Chiefs did nothing in the 2014 offseason, missed the playoffs in the 2014 season, with Dorsey after the season admitting he should have done more to address the Chiefs personnel needs.

The strategy of replacing departed free agents with lesser/cheaper players (i.e. the Jeff Lickenbach strategy) doesn't work.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The 2014 offseason says hi.

The Chiefs did nothing in the 2014 offseason, missed the playoffs in the 2014 season, with Dorsey after the season admitting he should have done more to address the Chiefs personnel needs.

Hopefully he learned his lesson then and won't repeat his mistake.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It will be a failed offseason if this turns into the sequel of the 2014 offseason when the Chiefs lost virtually all of their free agents and failed to replace them with anyone of significance (i.e. the Jeff Linkenbach offseason).

I have no problem with the Chiefs choosing not to overpay to keep guys like Sean Smith, but if the Chiefs aren't more aggressive than they were in 2014 in replacing their lost free agents, it will be a failed offseason.

The failed 2014 offseason led to a wasted/missed playoffs season.

The 2014 offseason re-set the deck and allowed for the successes of 2015.

Sometimes you have to let the cap correct itself and then move forward. The 2014 off-season was an exemplary example of that and as much proof to me as 2015 that Dorsey knows what he's doing.

The only bad off-season Dorsey has had here was 2013 and that's one that could've gotten this team into a lot of trouble had Bowe not toked his way out of a shitload of guaranteed money.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The 2014 offseason says hi.

The Chiefs did nothing in the 2014 offseason, missed the playoffs in the 2014 season, with Dorsey after the season admitting he should have done more to address the Chiefs personnel needs.

Can we at least wait till after free agency is over, more or less starts, before we say it's 2014 all over again

[RunKC]

@CharlesRobinson-#Chiefs know they'll have to raise the current offer to CB Sean Smith to retain him. Not sure they will. #Raiders & #49ers will be in play.

....

@CharlesRobinson-Yes, #Chiefs have made a conservative offer to retain CB Sean Smith. But they know he's got a wider market awaiting.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by RunKC

@CharlesRobinson-#Chiefs know they'll have to raise the current offer to CB Sean Smith to retain him. Not sure they will. #Raiders & #49ers will be in play.

Thanks penbrook.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Are we just sitting on our asses doing nothing about our own players? All we've managed to do all offseason is franchise Berry because we couldn't even get him under contract. With so many teams flush with cash I imagine we're going to lose a lot of talent.

Yep, just like Justin Houston.















Dumbass !

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The 2014 offseason re-set the deck and allowed for the successes of 2015.

Sometimes you have to let the cap correct itself and then move forward. The 2014 off-season was an exemplary example of that and as much proof to me as 2015 that Dorsey knows what he's doing.

The only bad off-season Dorsey has had here was 2013 and that's one that could've gotten this team into a lot of trouble had Bowe not toked his way out of a shitload of guaranteed money.

Bowe contract was bad but getting Kelce, Fisher, Parker, S. Smith, Howard and Alex (by far the best QB available that year) was really solid IMO.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I've heard Dorsey say we won't let good players get away many times.

Actually it was only one time but I watched the same video many times.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Subscribing.

Xoxo

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Bowe contract was bad but getting Kelce, Fisher, Parker, S. Smith, Howard and Alex (by far the best QB available that year) was really solid IMO.

Well with the #1 overall pick and waiver spot, I'd hope he'd be able to get a few solid players, especially given the fact that he was in the same spot as the Raiders find themselves this year; sitting on loads of cap space.

That said, your point is a solid one - when that's your WORST offseason, you're pretty damn good at this.

Successful offseasons are oftentimes determined as much by what you don't do as what you actually do. Had Dorsey gone out and burned up cap space in 2014 either retaining or replacing schlubs like McCluster, Schwartz and Asomoah, we'd have never been able to get Maclin in the fold and getting Houston re-signed would've been substantially more difficult. Hell, retaining Hali may have been prohibitive and given the solid season we got from him (a finishing kick, IMO), that ended up being enormous.

Sometimes the only way to win is not to play. The market's going to be flooeded by poorly run teams desperately trying to spend to the floor. That's not a marketplace a smart GM wants to operate if he can avoid it.

That said - I do believe Dorsey failed in not getting Berry inked prior to the franchise deadline. That's going to, at worst, cost us a fair amount of money (and more likely simply cost us a player in either Howard or Smith).

That said, it's done - move on. Don't go out there trying to 'win the offseason' by torching available cap space in panic moves. That's how he handled the 2014 offseason and it turned out to be the perfect approach.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well with the #1 overall pick and waiver spot, I'd hope he'd be able to get a few solid players, especially given the fact that he was in the same spot as the Raiders find themselves this year; sitting on loads of cap space.

That said, your point is a solid one - when that's your WORST offseason, you're pretty damn good at this.

Successful offseasons are oftentimes determined as much by what you don't do as what you actually do. Had Dorsey gone out and burned up cap space in 2014 either retaining or replacing schlubs like McCluster, Schwartz and Asomoah, we'd have never been able to get Maclin in the fold and getting Houston re-signed would've been substantially more difficult. Hell, retaining Hali may have been prohibitive and given the solid season we got from him (a finishing kick, IMO), that ended up being enormous.

Sometimes the only way to win is not to play. The market's going to be flooeded by poorly run teams desperately trying to spend to the floor. That's not a marketplace a smart GM wants to operate if he can avoid it.

That said - I do believe Dorsey failed in not getting Berry inked prior to the franchise deadline. That's going to, at worst, cost us a fair amount of money (and more likely simply cost us a player in either Howard or Smith).
That said, it's done - move on. Don't go out there trying to 'win the offseason' by torching available cap space in panic moves. That's how he handled the 2014 offseason and it turned out to be the perfect approach.

I could be wrong but since Berry has been tagged I believe they now have more time to iron out a long term deal. June 15th maybe.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well with the #1 overall pick and waiver spot, I'd hope he'd be able to get a few solid players, especially given the fact that he was in the same spot as the Raiders find themselves this year; sitting on loads of cap space.

That said, your point is a solid one - when that's your WORST offseason, you're pretty damn good at this.

Successful offseasons are oftentimes determined as much by what you don't do as what you actually do. Had Dorsey gone out and burned up cap space in 2014 either retaining or replacing schlubs like McCluster, Schwartz and Asomoah, we'd have never been able to get Maclin in the fold and getting Houston re-signed would've been substantially more difficult. Hell, retaining Hali may have been prohibitive and given the solid season we got from him (a finishing kick, IMO), that ended up being enormous.

Sometimes the only way to win is not to play. The market's going to be flooeded by poorly run teams desperately trying to spend to the floor. That's not a marketplace a smart GM wants to operate if he can avoid it.

That said - I do believe Dorsey failed in not getting Berry inked prior to the franchise deadline. That's going to, at worst, cost us a fair amount of money (and more likely simply cost us a player in either Howard or Smith).

That said, it's done - move on. Don't go out there trying to 'win the offseason' by torching available cap space in panic moves. That's how he handled the 2014 offseason and it turned out to be the perfect approach.

I don't see it as failure because Berry was coming back from cancer. That's a tricky deal to get done considering the circumstances plus it takes two to tango.

[O.city]

The tag guarantees the tag money earmarked. A long term deal allows you to move said money around more

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I could be wrong but since Berry has been tagged I believe they now have more time to iron out a long term deal. June 15th maybe.

They do - but they had to use the tag on a guy who should've been among the easier signs out there.

And again, this is why I'd have put him on the NFI when he had his cancer diagnosis two years ago. And yes, I'd have absolutely cut his pay. For all the bullshit about the 'good will' it brought us, it doesn't seem to have done dick with this contract.

But if we'd have been able to roll over the $5 million we'd have saved as a cap charge and offered that to Berry now, he'd have probably taken it. But because we simply gifted him money he wasn't owed, he pocketed it and gave us the bird come contract time.

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I don't see it as failure because Berry was coming back from cancer. That's a tricky deal to get done considering the circumstances plus it takes two to tango.

I don't mean the fact that they didn't sign him last year; that was understandable. As you've noted, a LTC with a guy coming off cancer would've been tricky and perhaps irresponsible. I mean the fact that with a month-long negotiating window, they couldn't get a deal done that saved the tag for us to use on Smith.

So now they're either going to capitulate and cave in to Berry's demands, or they'll let him play on the tag and find themselves in the same spot next season. Neither of those are good spots to be in.