Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 116

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

I also remember how that team looked when Emmitt Smith was having a contract dispute.

Yeah, he held out, the Cowboys went 0-2, and Jerry Jones couldn't give him his money fast enough.

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 10:37 AM

I have no dog in this fight.........Yes, Alex Smith guy, but I wasn't on the Geno Smith bashing train....

Geno Smith is a guy that a lot of people that are backpedaling right now wanted in the first round, and 1.1

You are the same guys that have been killing Eric Fisher for not looking like a stud immediately, yet, you guys are making a mockery of people who then were telling you that Geno Smith wasn't a good qb by making comparisons to Alex Smith, and to Mark Sanchez.

Mark Sanchez and Alex Smith are both game managers yes.

But, Andrew Luck, RG3, even Russell Wilson, didn't look as bad as Geno Smith has looked in this preseason.

The lesson here is when you blow your horn and pound your chest because you know more than other people, when that blows up in your face, be prepared to bathe in your own shit because you begged for it.

And hell, if Alex Smith crashes and burns, ill be bathing in my own shit as well.

It sucks, but own it.

lcarus · 08-26-2013, 10:41 AM

Poor Geno. I just ****ing knew those NY Jets were gonna be a trainwreck and bring Geno down with them, whether he has potential at all or not. If he does, looks like it's gonna take some time...

Red Chum · 08-26-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Poor Geno. I just ****ing knew those NY Jets were gonna be a trainwreck and bring Geno down with them, whether he has potential at all or not. If he does, looks like it's gonna take some time...

Geno is mentally weak. Even if they were good he would fail in New York. He will take the media attacks personally.

Also, for all of you guys making excuses for Geno, make sure you don't rip people for making excuses for Alex because it's the same ****ing thing.

Jakemall · 08-26-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Never ****ing compare Alex Smith to Troy Aikman.

Hmm...I seem to remember Norv Turner doing that when he was coaching him.

But WTF does Norv know about Aikman, right?

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Poor Geno. I just ****ing knew those NY Jets were gonna be a trainwreck and bring Geno down with them, whether he has potential at all or not. If he does, looks like it's gonna take some time...

Yup. Worst place to go in all of the NFL. The new York sinking titanics

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Originally Posted by Red Chum

Geno is mentally weak. Even if they were good he would fail in New York. He will take the media attacks personally.

Also, for all of you guys making excuses for Geno, make sure you don't rip people for making excuses for Alex because it's the same ****ing thing.

I agree with both points. But, New York has killed several mentally weak qbs. But, there are other places with small markets that he could make it.

people don't want to hear it, but Aaron Rodgers is pretty mentally weak, or was, especially at first. He didn't take too well to interviews in Green Bay his first few seasons. Especially when people started questioning his toughness when he ended up on the IR his first two seasons.

Setsuna · 08-26-2013, 11:11 AM

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DJ's left nut · 08-26-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

He's right. "Game manager" is only considered a bad thing on internet forums. You don't hear coaches or players putting a QB down for being a game manager. Trent Green pretty much summed up the professionals thinking on that subject yesterday.

I've been saying this for a couple of years now.

'Game Manager' became the TV tag that guys like Ryan and Pioli put on their shitty quarterbacks. It was a more television friendly way of saying 'shitty quarterback'.

It was also wildly inaccurate and it's unfairly turned that term into a pejorative.

Matt Schaub, Sam Bradford, Andy Dalton, Alex Smith - those guys are game managers. Those players make their teams exactly as good as they are. It's not a bad thing, it's just not a great thing to be.

There are gunslingers like Cutler and Romo - guys that can make their teams better some weeks, worse others.

Then there legitimately great QBs that just make their teams better every week.

The Schaub/Bradford/Dalton/Smith class isn't inferior to the Romo/Cutler class, it's just much different.

Alex Smith is a very good game manager. You'll win a lot of games with guys like that.

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I've been saying this for a couple of years now.

'Game Manager' became the TV tag that guys like Ryan and Pioli put on their shitty quarterbacks. It was a more television friendly way of saying 'shitty quarterback'.

It was also wildly inaccurate and it's unfairly turned that term into a pejorative.

Matt Schaub, Sam Bradford, Andy Dalton, Alex Smith - those guys are game managers. Those players make their teams exactly as good as they are. It's not a bad thing, it's just not a great thing to be.

There are gunslingers like Cutler and Romo - guys that can make their teams better some weeks, worse others.

Then there legitimately great QBs that just make their teams better every week.

The Schaub/Bradford/Dalton/Smith class isn't inferior to the Romo/Cutler class, it's just much different.

Alex Smith is a very good game manager. You'll win a lot of games with guys like that.

This guy just keeps getting worse and worse. Every year now, he is just starting to suck. Ironically, a lot of that has to do with the fact that Andre Johnson is hurt a lot, and getting old.

He never wins the big games ever either.

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby

Is it possible for your ignore list to exceed capacity?

is it possible for you to be more of a tool, or is it possible for anyone outside of GoChiefs to give a shit about you?

Nah, prolly not. Carry on Jags troll.

Jakemall · 08-26-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

I don't... but I am suspecting the O was pretty rough?

Oline was fine..but the offense kept sputtering. Emmitt won the dispute after the Cowboys lost 2 games. They went on to win the Superbowl that year.

DJ's left nut · 08-26-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

This guy just keeps getting worse and worse. Every year now, he is just starting to suck. Ironically, a lot of that has to do with the fact that Andre Johnson is hurt a lot, and getting old.

He never wins the big games ever either.

Schaub threw for 4K yards in a run-first offense while completing 64% of his passes.

I'll take that kind of suck every time.

People are just insane when it comes to QBs. Matt Ryan was a choking bitch that the Falcons shouldn't re-sign...until he wasn't anymore. Joe Flacco was considered an underachiever and a mediocre first round pick for years...until he won a couple playoff games.

People use the rear-view mirror almost exclusively when evaluating NFL Quarterbacks. It's really quite foolish.

Matt Schaub is a good NFL quarterback that does have the tools to win a championship. He beat a solid Cincinnati team in the first round last year then lost to a clicking Patriots offense despite scoring 28 points because he had the audacity to throw for only 340 yards and 2 TDs.

Sandy Vagina · 08-26-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Matt Schaub is a good NFL quarterback that does have the tools to win a championship.

I would agree with this. He should really benefit from having Andre J. and Hopkins to throw to. He also has a top 10 rush O and defense to lean on. Is he a special QB? I'd say no... but he is easily in that next tier of good QBs.

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Schaub threw for 4K yards in a run-first offense while completing 64% of his passes.

I'll take that kind of suck every time.

People are just insane when it comes to QBs. Matt Ryan was a choking bitch that the Falcons shouldn't re-sign...until he wasn't anymore. Joe Flacco was considered an underachiever and a mediocre first round pick for years...until he won a couple playoff games.

People use the rear-view mirror almost exclusively when evaluating NFL Quarterbacks. It's really quite foolish.

Matt Schaub is a good NFL quarterback that does have the tools to win a championship. He beat a solid Cincinnati team in the first round last year then lost to a clicking Patriots offense despite scoring 28 points because he had the audacity to throw for only 340 yards and 2 TDs.

Hmmm, well, hard to argue here. Can I chalk it up to insanity and the fact that I hate the state of texas in general?

**Mav** · 08-26-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

I would agree with this. He should really benefit from having Andre J. and Hopkins to throw to. He also has a top 10 rush O and defense to lean on. Is he a special QB? I'd say no... but he is easily in that next tier of good QBs.

Playing 9 games in domes minimum every year certainly helps cover for his physical limits.

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