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Old 08-10-2012, 09:14 PM  
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Thoughts on Pre-Season Game #1
Well, how would you break it down?
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:12 AM   #796
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You can't leave out QB though.

Cassel takes what should be a versatile attack and neuters the downfield passing game, and makes the running game worse because defenses can cheat up.

He's truly a bastard.
It's part of the point though. The offense is so good and versatile, they will elevate his game. You don't think Cassel throws for 3500?
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:13 AM   #797
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Come on, the 2011 49ers team was completely different from the 2010 team.

Singletary was a complete joke.
Pretty sure that is what I said...largely the roster remained intact on the defensive side, minus the additions I mentioned + more. They have been a team with above average D talent for the last several years with Willis, Smith, etc. Wasn't trying to say they were the same team.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:15 AM   #798
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Definitely. The issue is, Gannon was a Franchise QB at that time. Cassel, most likely will not be. Definitely agree that he should look average or above at times with this team this year.
Oh, I don't agree. Gannon was pretty awful in 1998 and in 1997 he was surrounded with talent.

He wasn't the MVP until 2002 and that performance was short lived.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:15 AM   #799
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Their receivers outside of Welker don't do not for me either. Lloyd is good, but will he produce? TE's and QB rock though.
Lloyd, IMO, will definitely produce. He'll also open things up IMO. Agreed though that the rest of their receivers are journeymen.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:16 AM   #800
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Pretty sure that is what I said...largely the roster remained intact on the defensive side, minus the additions I mentioned + more. They have been a team with above average D talent for the last several years with Willis, Smith, etc. Wasn't trying to say they were the same team.
Oh, sorry. I didn't read it that way.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:16 AM   #801
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It's a shame that some of you let your hate for Pioli cloud your enjoyment of this team at such a crucial juncture.

These kids we have been watching since the moment they put the red and gold on, and got to see develop right in front of us, are becoming men in this league and Growing into their own left and right.

If we can get just SOLID quarterback play (from whoever is playing the position) this team can beat almost any team in football.

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When you guys watch the games, do you root for the team to win more or less than the time you waste on not agreeing with the way the team we have has been built?
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Lloyd, IMO, will definitely produce. He'll also open things up IMO. Agreed though that the rest of their receivers are journeymen.
Well, so is Lloyd. You never know, he could hit the wall this year as well.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:17 AM   #803
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It's part of the point though. The offense is so good and versatile, they will elevate his game. You don't think Cassel throws for 3500?
It's hard to say.

If Baldwin is really as good as the koolaid servers would have us believe, then yes.

If not, then no.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:20 AM   #804
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When you guys watch the games, do you root for the team to win more or leas than the time you waste on not agreeing with the team we have?
These days I just kind of smile and nod.

If this team starts out on a poor pace again it will be more of the same. I can't focus my full attention on a game these days anyway so it's not the same.

And I feel pretty secure knowing it wouldn't be worth it, anyway.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:21 AM   #805
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Well, so is Lloyd. You never know, he could hit the wall this year as well.
You're right, he could. However, he was able to produce with McD the last 3 years, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Additionally, he's a good route runner and is only 30 I believe, so he should still have enough speed to be a positive factor. Additionally, he's a significant upgrade over anything on the outside they've had since Randy. Their vertical/deep/sideline passing game has been horrible the last two years.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:24 AM   #806
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These days I just kind of smile and nod.

If this team starts out on a poor pace again it will be more of the same. I can't focus my full attention on a game these days anyway so it's not the same.

And I feel pretty secure knowing it wouldn't be worth it, anyway.
That's a sad way to be a fan man.

We love to over analyze and all that, but if you can't enjoy a game when it's on then whats the point.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:26 AM   #807
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It's hard to say.

If Baldwin is really as good as the koolaid servers would have us believe, then yes.

If not, then no.
Dude, 90% of his "hype" has come straight from fans, bloggers and media members on twitter. Actually, nothing said by anyone employed by the Chiefs has influenced my expectations for him this season.
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That's a sad way to be a fan man.

We love to over analyze and all that, but if you can't enjoy a game when it's on then whats the point.
I don't have the luxury of focusing exclusively on the Chiefs on Sunday anyway, so it is what it is.

It's comforting to know that I'm not really missing anything. And I feel confident that I'm not.

In the meantime I get a kick out of reviewing the games during the week and watching individuals perform at a high level.

We're not a team that has competed for shit in almost 10 years, now, so....it is what is. A man can only eat so much shit before he stops shoveling it into his maw as if it were caviar.
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Just watched it last night after the replay. My thoughts:

Yes, Cassel was better than expected. I like the audibles.
Peyton Hillis and Dexter McCluster are set to have big seasons.
Defense looks top 5.
Our O-line was busting holes open for all the backs.
Hudson especially was pancaking guys.
MANERI! MANERI! MANERI! Caught the ball as well as ANY TE in the league. Go ahead and move him to 1st string.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:53 AM   #810
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Overall talent, its better than the 03 team.

And not even close.
2003 was better at QB, FB, LT, LG, C, RG, and TE on offense all by a wide margin.
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