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Old 01-04-2013, 01:29 PM   #1
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Bray is a sure thing?
I like Bray, but he's the biggest boom or bust prospect in this draft class.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:48 AM   #2
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Really? I just turned on his snaps vs. Stanford. Nice pocket presence and made an accurate throw on the run so far.
Yeah I really think so. No one really jumps out at me behind Geno. I like Wilson but that second tier is all lumped together to me. Depends on what teams are looking for.

But everytime I've watched Fales he has impressed me with his pocket presence, accuracy, and ability to get through his progressions when necessary. He makes smart decisions and is playing with crap around him, but elevating their play tremendously.

They almost beat Stanford on the road for ffs.

I'm almost looking for something negative at this point since it blows my mind how this guy ended up at San Jose State but I come away impressed everytime I watch him. I'd say his size and arm strength are his weaknesses but I also believe both are more than adequate for the NFL level. He was great last night in their bowl game.

I think I'm ready to move him ahead of Wilson as my 2nd favorite draft eligible QB.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:14 PM   #3
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Watching Fales in the Stanford game and here are some of my takeaways:
+ He works his progressions quickly.
+ He drives the ball well to the outside in the short passing game.
+ He has good pocket presence and is elusive in the pocket
- His pre-snap reads are not good and he fails to account for the safety during his progressions at times.
- He lacks the ability to drive the ball on intermediate routes.
- Overall he doesn't have an NFL arm. Anything over ~25 yards is floating.
- His accuracy is inconsistent. His wide receivers wound up having to make a lot of adjustments and he tends to throw behind them.
- He seems to have a ball pat that slows down his release.
He is an awfully short 6'3" if you ask me and an awfully skinny 220.

Just my take after watching the one youtube.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:50 PM   #4
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After seeing Wilson's success this year I wouldn't mind Tajh Boyd in the third round.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:38 AM   #5
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After seeing Wilson's success this year I wouldn't mind Tajh Boyd in the third round.
Russell Wilson and Tajh Boyd are about as far apart as you can get in terms of prospects.
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:24 PM   #6
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Shaky 2nd half of the season + poor bowl game + not participating (so far) at senior bowl = big dip in Geno's stock.

It may rebound by April, but I'd suspect he falls behind a bit. Glennon and/or Wilson will show well in Mobile and jump up the board.
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:49 PM   #7
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Shaky 2nd half of the season + poor bowl game + not participating (so far) at senior bowl = big dip in Geno's stock.

It may rebound by April, but I'd suspect he falls behind a bit. Glennon and/or Wilson will show well in Mobile and jump up the board.
He'd better play in the Senior Bowl.

The last image in GM's minds cannot be him pouting on the sideline in Yankee Stadium.

If he wants to be the first pick, he needs to go out and perform credibly in the Senior Bowl.
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:51 PM   #8
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Shaky 2nd half of the season + poor bowl game + not participating (so far) at senior bowl = big dip in Geno's stock.

It may rebound by April, but I'd suspect he falls behind a bit. Glennon and/or Wilson will show well in Mobile and jump up the board.
So what does Glennon's bowl game do to him? Or his games against Virginia or other ACC teams?
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:55 PM   #9
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So what does Glennon's bowl game do to him? Or his games against Virginia or other ACC teams?
it would drop him, but a good Senior Bowl week can help him rebound. And while you apparently attempt to diminish the ACC - Ga Tech just beat USC, Clemson upset LSU and FSU also just won their bowl games.



My understanding is that Wilson has been working with Chris Weinke. He'll probably look really good in Mobile.

And before any dope (not as much in the draft forum as main forum) says "Chirs Weinke - he sucks", I believe Russell Wilson and Tannehill and Foles all worked with him last year and he improved their stock.
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Shaky 2nd half of the season + poor bowl game + not participating (so far) at senior bowl = big dip in Geno's stock.
If his stock is maxed out, there's no point in him playing at the Senior Bowl.

If his agent is getting feelers that he's going to the Chiefs or Jags, he can only hurt himself.
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I get the Wilson love, I like him alot too. But this Glennon stuff, don't really knwo where thats coming from. He had a few solid games, and is built well for a QB at the next level.


But he had awful games against Tennesse, Virginia, and Uconn. His accuracy is very questionable as his accuracy has actually gotten worse as he's gone thru school.
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It is said that Pioli liked Glennon. That's all you need to know about how much cock he sucks as a QB.
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I've been watching some of the various clips of the prospects and I'd have to say my opinion of Bray is dropping like a rock. Even though I like to take shots at all things USC, Barkley actually looks pretty good. I'm still not overly impressed by Smith. I understand he's a legit first round prospect", but he's not someone to completely fawn over.
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Revised pre-combine/pro days (which won't have a huge effect unless someone just blows it up throwing)

1. Geno Smith
2. Tyler Wilson
3. Matt Barkley
4. Ryan Nassib
5. Matt Glennon
6. Zac Dysert (pretty close with Glennon, almost 5a/5b if you will)
7. Tyler Bray
8. EJ Manuel
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