Chiefs Will this team win a playoff game? - Page 10

Eleazar · 12-13-2018, 11:03 PM

Will the Chiefs win a playoff game? Or has the blueprint been written - run the ball and keep Mahomes off the field, sprinkled with deep shots against the horrible secondary.

TEX · 12-15-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Here is the schedule we've played, sorted by their current records:

Rams 11-2 (lost)
Chargers 11-3 (lost, won)
Patriots 9-4 (lost)
Steelers 7-5-1 (won)
Ravens 7-6 (won)
Broncos 6-7 (won, won)
Browns 5-7-1 (won)
Bengals 5-8 (won)
Jaguars 4-9 (won)
49ers 3-10 (won)
Cardinals 3-10 (won)
Raiders 3-10 (won)

It's pretty clear where we slot in with those teams. We are right alongside the Ravens and Steelers - better than the bad teams, but not in the group of the league's best teams. We don't really have an outlying win or loss, except maybe the first Chargers win.

We don't have a convincing win against a team with a winning record, either. You can look at the first Chargers game with all their unforced errors, the Ravens game where we needed a fourth down miracle to bail us out, or the Steelers game where Mahomes threw 6 touchdowns and played a perfect game and we still had to hold them off at the end.

Regardless of whether we draw a worse team in the divisional round and manage to get a win, this just really isn't a year where we can say we compare with the class of the league yet. If anything we've probably overachieved and should have two more losses or so.

It's not to say the franchise isn't headed in the right direction, but that reports we'd already arrived as Super Bowl contenders were greatly exaggerated.

Now do the same for the Chargers, Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Texans, Rams & Saints and see how we fare. You may be surprised...

St. Patty's Fire · 12-15-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Now do the same for the Chargers, Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Texans, Rams & Saints and see how we fare. You may be surprised...

Patriots “best” wins are @Chicago (9-5) and vs Chiefs (11-3)
Chargers “best” wins are @Chiefs (11-3), @Seahawks (8-5) and @Steelers (7-5-1)
Saints “best” wins are vs Rams (11-2) and @Baltimore (7-6)
Texans haven’t beaten any noteworthy teams. They barely beat the Colts when the Colts when they were playing like shit

St. Patty's Fire · 12-15-2018, 02:06 PM

Looking through the schedules the Saints have has a pretttty easy one. Chargers too

crayzkirk · 12-15-2018, 02:17 PM

I voted no because the defense hasn't stopped anyone at crunch time. Maybe I'm just afraid to trust this team because I've been around for every one of the crushing defeats, bad bounces, bad calls, dumb coaching decisions, etc. Marty's teams suffered some really bad losses, many were self inflicted. Those teams were at least able to keep the penalties down.

The pass rush is the only thing good about the defense and teams can simply run and throw short passes to defeat that. The Chargers simply threw short passes and marched down the field the entire second and fourth quarters.

I don't believe in curses; we make our own luck by being in the right place at the right time. We get what we expect and if we let the fear of losing dictate what we do, then we will get what we expect.

Maybe not this year or even next year however, the old guard in the NFL will be moving on and the Chiefs are poised to be one of the teams the others are looking up to. Just want to find a few of those great third round picks for the defense.

Rasputin · 12-15-2018, 02:19 PM

We had two home games in six weeks and lost to the Patriots. What other team had 4 away games first 6 games?

chiefzilla1501 · 12-15-2018, 02:28 PM

If Reid lets Mahomes play 4 quarters, we can beat anyone.
If our D comes together with Berry, we can make a deep playoff run.

I don't have as much confidence in a deep playoff run. The team has gotten to a point where Mahomes has to carry it. That's a lot to ask from a QB this early. But I hope I'm wrong.

ChiefsCountry · 12-15-2018, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnDONsey

Chargers too

Chargers have played the exact same schedule the Chiefs have expect they had Buffalo and Tennessee, we had Patriots and Jaguars.

TEX · 12-15-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnDONsey

Patriots “best” wins are @Chicago (9-5) and vs Chiefs (11-3)
Chargers “best” wins are @Chiefs (11-3), @Seahawks (8-5) and @Steelers (7-5-1)
Saints “best” wins are vs Rams (11-2) and @Baltimore (7-6)
Texans haven’t beaten any noteworthy teams. They barely beat the Colts when the Colts when they were playing like shit

Exactly. I see that you understand my point.
But I'm not only talking about wins, I'm also talking about the schedules played by all of the contenders.

TEX · 12-15-2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Chargers have played the exact same schedule the Chiefs have expect they had Buffalo and Tennessee, we had Patriots and Jaguars.

So would you say that the Chiefs have played the harder of the two? I would. Having to go to New England, in Prime Time, is no picnic.

In58men · 12-15-2018, 03:05 PM

We’re pretty easy to beat actually. Dink and dunk, run and run. Keep Mahomes off the field and put two defenders on Kelce. Hill is having drop issues no need to double cover that guy.

**MahiMike** · 12-15-2018, 03:21 PM

Stupid poll. Of course we win. Stop the PTSD!

We got Mahomes!

PAChiefsGuy · 12-15-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

We’re pretty easy to beat actually. Dink and dunk, run and run. Keep Mahomes off the field and put two defenders on Kelce. Hill is having drop issues no need to double cover that guy.

If we are so easy to beat how comes our record is 11-3, we've lost to all playoff teams and they were all close games?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-15-2018, 04:51 PM

I think the question should be, "can we win a Super Bowl"? And right now, the answer to that question is "no".

A Super Bowl is the only thing that cures all ills and wipes the stank of this shitty Buttons defense from our collective consciousness. It sets everything right and nicely wraps up a brilliant first starting season for our amazing young franchise QB.

That said, I'm going to be selfish and take the heat for it; I don't want a singular playoff win. If it's a choice between losing in the first round or winning in the first round and losing in the next, I'm taking the former option. And I'm doing this because it gives Reid absolutely NO leverage when it comes to Sutton. And as much as I'd love to see Pat get a shot at winning one this year, I'd much rather remove the weakest link from this team, re-tool, and get ready to go again.

**Bearcat** · 12-15-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I actually still disagree. We have Mahomes. We can absolutely 100% win a playoff game against any team in the league.

Where I have zero confidence is that we can pull that off three straight games without the defense choking on its spit. There have been plenty of bad defensive teams that have even made the Super Bowl. But it's hard to win it all because you usually run into a more balanced team somewhere along the way.

Yeah. Winning a playoff game is nothing, shit teams make the playoffs every year.. surprised people even care about winning a playoff game anymore.

Seriously doubt they can win a SB this year, but it's obviously too early in Mahomes' career to really care.

For the first time in decades the mentality shouldn't be about making the playoffs or winning one ****ing playoff game... it's about being competitive deep into the playoffs every year, which is so much more likely now than it ever has been (but, probably not this year).

JakeF · 12-15-2018, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

We’re pretty easy to beat actually. Dink and dunk, run and run. Keep Mahomes off the field and put two defenders on Kelce. Hill is having drop issues no need to double cover that guy.

That's where Watkins helps so much. It's much more difficult to double Kelce if you have another dangerous weapon.

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12-13-2018, 11:03 PM
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12-15-2018, 02:17 PM	#139
crayzkirk Veteran Join Date: Nov 2016 Casino cash: $3850000	I voted no because the defense hasn't stopped anyone at crunch time. Maybe I'm just afraid to trust this team because I've been around for every one of the crushing defeats, bad bounces, bad calls, dumb coaching decisions, etc. Marty's teams suffered some really bad losses, many were self inflicted. Those teams were at least able to keep the penalties down. The pass rush is the only thing good about the defense and teams can simply run and throw short passes to defeat that. The Chargers simply threw short passes and marched down the field the entire second and fourth quarters. I don't believe in curses; we make our own luck by being in the right place at the right time. We get what we expect and if we let the fear of losing dictate what we do, then we will get what we expect. Maybe not this year or even next year however, the old guard in the NFL will be moving on and the Chiefs are poised to be one of the teams the others are looking up to. Just want to find a few of those great third round picks for the defense.
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In58men Baba Ganoush Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $2318026	We’re pretty easy to beat actually. Dink and dunk, run and run. Keep Mahomes off the field and put two defenders on Kelce. Hill is having drop issues no need to double cover that guy. __________________ My Kansas City Chief record 9-9
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12-15-2018, 03:21 PM	#146
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Stupid poll. Of course we win. Stop the PTSD! We got Mahomes! __________________ 99.9%
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12-15-2018, 04:51 PM	#148
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