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Old 02-04-2017, 08:56 AM  
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Alex Smith or Jimmy Garoppolo?
If those are your only choices, would you rather stand pat with Smith or give up a high draft pick for Garoppolo?
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:42 AM   #46
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I'll stick with Smith if that's the only choice I have. I agree with Dane that Mahomes is pretty raw and could use a year to work on some skills. One guy I wouldn't mind taking a close look at this year is Peterman from Pitt. He'll need some polishing. I only saw a couple of his games this year, but he seemed to be able to move as well as stand in the pocket.
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:46 AM   #47
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They completed a high percentage of their passes for a lot of yards and TD's, and performed at a high level at crunch time when needed. I watch college football more for entertainment than judging footwork and the likes.
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:49 AM   #48
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They completed a high percentage of their passes for a lot of yards and TD's, and performed at a high level at crunch time when needed. I watch college football more for entertainment than judging footwork and the likes.
If QB's can't read defenses and don't play in a Pro Style offense, most likely, it'll take a few years for them to learn the Pro Game, if ever.

Watson and Mahomes are two guys that can't read defenses. Watson's a mess, IMO. I wouldn't touch the guy.
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:56 AM   #49
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If QB's can't read defenses and don't play in a Pro Style offense, most likely, it'll take a few years for them to learn the Pro Game, if ever.

Watson and Mahomes are two guys that can't read defenses. Watson's a mess, IMO. I wouldn't touch the guy.
Like I said, I am no QB guru. They looked like they knew what they were doing when I watched them.

I just answered MM 's question. My first two options are Bossman's and Pest's. If faced with MM's choice, Smith and a draft pick.
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:02 PM   #50
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I know next to nothing about Garoppolo but.....
At this point I want them to go with the Not Alex Smith option. Trading with Belichick is akin to playing poker with someone who is using a marked deck. If, and only if the Chiefs can't pick up a potential franchise QB in the draft I'd trade for Garoppolo. And during the negotiations with Belichick I keep my back to the wall, my head on a swivel, hand on my wallet, and the car running just outside the door.
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:11 PM   #51
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I know how this turns out. Bill Belichick takes our draft picks and picks a quarterback and wins MOOORE SUPER BOWLS.
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I know how this turns out. Bill Belichick takes our draft picks and picks a quarterback and wins MOOORE SUPER BOWLS.
Now that sounds about right.
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:18 PM   #53
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I wouldn't risk trading for Garoppolo.

I could see Belicheck wanting a 1st rounder for him.

It's not worth the risk considering that there is a small sample size.

I'm not a fan of Smith but would rather keep him for now and save the draft picks.

Chiefs should just go the draft route for a QB. For them, I don't think it's about winning a Superbowl now anyway. It's better to focus on 2, 3 years from now.

Just wait till Brady retires, prime your QB in the meantime while he is playing. I think it's unrealistic to think that the QB you draft now could come in right away and be as good as Tom Brady. No QB in the draft will match his skill and competitiveness level immediately but if you make him an understudy maybe in 2, 3 years he could? or at least come close?
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:22 PM   #54
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Why would New England get rid of Garoppolo in the first place? It's not like Brady's a spring chicken. Wouldn't they be keeping Garoppolo if they felt he was "the answer" to Brady's eventual retirement?

I'm all for moving on from Alex, but not for Garoppolo. I'd much rather keep Alex and draft a guy....or two....or three until I found my man.

Just saw Bricks reply. Could've saved space by just saying "ditto".
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I wouldn't risk trading for Garoppolo.

I could see Belicheck wanting a 1st rounder for him.

It's not worth the risk considering that there is a small sample size.

I'm not a fan of Smith but would rather keep him for now and save the draft picks.

Chiefs should just go the draft route for a QB. For them, I don't think it's about winning a Superbowl now anyway. It's better to focus on 2, 3 years from now.

Just wait till Brady retires, prime your QB in the meantime while he is playing. I think it's unrealistic to think that the QB you draft now could come in right away and be as good as Tom Brady. No QB in the draft will match his skill and competitiveness level immediately but if you make him an understudy maybe in 2, 3 years he could? or at least come close?
The Chiefs don't need a Tom Brady QB to win. If that was the criteria for drafting a QB in the top rounds nobody would draft one. We just an above average QB for this team to be able to compete consistently with every other team.
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As I stated about Garoppolo a few days ago:

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For his career, almost 85 percent of Garoppolo's completions are passes thrown 10 yards or less. (44/52)

That's 7 percent HIGHER than dink-and-dunkin' 2016 ALEX SMITH. (255/328)

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Why would New England get rid of Garoppolo in the first place? It's not like Brady's a spring chicken. Wouldn't they be keeping Garoppolo if they felt he was "the answer" to Brady's eventual retirement?

I'm all for moving on from Alex, but not for Garoppolo. I'd much rather keep Alex and draft a guy....or two....or three until I found my man.

Just saw Bricks reply. Could've saved space by just saying "ditto".
I doubt Belichick is concerned about picking up another QB on down the road when Brady is ready to retire. Which looks like it'll be a few years at the least, could be 5 or 6. Not when he could swap his current clip board carrier for draft picks that could have an immediate impact.
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I doubt Belichick is concerned about picking up another QB on down the road when Brady is ready to retire. Which looks like it'll be a few years at the least, could be 5 or 6. Not when he could swap his current clip board carrier for draft picks that could have an immediate impact.
Belichick drafted Jacoby Brissett this year, who started for the Patriots this season and went 1-1 for 400 yards, zero TD's and zero INT's with 1 rushing TD.

61.8% passing completion.

Once Jimmy G is gone, this guy slides into the #2 spot.
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I don't know what your definition of "playing well" is but there's an ongoing discussion about Watson in the Draft Forum where most people are seeing eye to eye with Watson's deficiencies and questions.

As far as Mahomes, he's extremely raw, way rawer than Ryan Tannehill (which is probably his ceiling at this point). He played in the Big 12 so he faced crap defenses, so he can't read defenses and played in the Air Raid. He has serious upside, but the question is "Can and when will he reach it?".

None of these guys are Andrew Luck or Carson Wentz or Dak Prescott, et al.
Yup. What we are seeing on CP is another case of the Geno Smith/Paxton Lynch hype train that is headed for a nose dive off a cliff
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Belichick drafted Jacoby Brissett this year, who started for the Patriots this season and went 1-1 for 400 yards, zero TD's and zero INT's with 1 rushing TD.

61.8% passing completion.

Once Jimmy G is gone, this guy slides into the #2 spot.
Forgot about that.
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