Books Marvel's Iceman is gay. - Page 3

**The Franchise** · 04-22-2015, 03:57 PM

Not like everyone knows he's a shitty character.....like he's been outed as a homosexual.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2033220/x-m...es-out-as-gay/

Marvel’s X-Men has always been known for tackling some of the most important human rights issues of the day, the most recent of which is gay rights; the first few movies from the current string of movies worked as a metaphor for gay rights, with mutants being told that they weren’t “natural” and being offered a cure for their “illness.” Now, the new issue of All New X-Men has revealed that one of the founders of the titular team of superheroes – Bobby Drake, aka Iceman – is gay.

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, lead writer on the series Brian Michael Bendis has said that there are millions of stories that could be told about people either confronting or hiding their sexuality, and that the X-Men series was a good way to examine such stories. He also noted that this is only the beginning of a larger story that will unfold across several more issues of All New X-Men.

“There are thousands, if not millions, of stories of people who, for many different reasons, felt the need to hide their sexuality. The X-Men, with the conceit of time travel, give us a fascinating platform in which to examine such personal journeys. This is just the first little chapter of a much larger story that will be told.”

However, Bendis has also said that he didn’t want to make sensationalist headlines, particularly negative ones, saying he just wanted the issue to come out and be enjoyed.

This new storyline deviates from both the comic’s original run and the plotline developed for the X-Men film series, which set up a story of a relationship between Iceman and the female character Rogue. In the time-twisting issue of All-New X-Men, Jean Grey – the X-Men’s resident telepath – travels back in time and reads the mind of a young Iceman, revealing that he was gay when he was a teenager. She later returns to present day to alert the older Iceman of her discovery.

The Iceman news comes after Marvel has announced several changes to its canonical characters in an attempt to make its comic books more accessible to a new generation of readers. Previously, the company gave a woman the power and name of Thor, gave the black Sam Wilson the mantel of Captain America, and made a Muslim teenager the new Ms. Marvel.

The new issue of All New X-Men is currently available in all comic book retailers.

thabear04 · 04-25-2015, 01:44 AM

**Rausch** · 04-25-2015, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

What's the big deal? Characters have been retconned ad nauseum from the very beginning. ESPECIALLY xmen characters.

And fans generally hate it...

Brock · 04-25-2015, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

And fans generally hate it...

**** em.

Valiant · 04-25-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

So was Top Gun's.

Everyone was gay in top gun. It is one of the gayest movies ever made.

RobBlake · 04-25-2015, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Everyone was gay in top gun. It is one of the gayest movies ever made.

eff you, top gun was awesome

**Rausch** · 04-28-2015, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

**** em.

So I read the book the story is in. IIRC the whole discussion takes place over 3 pages and takes up very little of the issue.

It doesn't make a lot of sense and comes off as a gimmick. It makes even less sense to do because of the timing. Marvel is doing their reboot starting in just a few days so it might not even stick. If this is what they wanted to do it could have been done better if they just waited 30 days and it's just one of many new changes.

Jamie · 04-28-2015, 08:59 AM

I think the reboot-iness of the Marvel reboot has been overstated. They might use it to adjust some things, but what's been shown of the post-Secret Wars status quo looks similar to the current one (Falcon-Cap, woman Thor, etc). Probably the big change will be the end of the Ultimate Universe.

**Rausch** · 04-28-2015, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

I think the reboot-iness of the Marvel reboot has been overstated. They might use it to adjust some things, but what's been shown of the post-Secret Wars status quo looks similar to the current one (Falcon-Cap, woman Thor, etc). Probably the big change will be the end of the Ultimate Universe.

We know Miles Morales and Ultimate Cpt. Marvel will move to the new 616.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Samuel L. Fury come over either.

They've been very tight lipped but I think they plan to do away with a lot and "simplify" things...

DaveNull · 04-28-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

I think the reboot-iness of the Marvel reboot has been overstated. They might use it to adjust some things, but what's been shown of the post-Secret Wars status quo looks similar to the current one (Falcon-Cap, woman Thor, etc). Probably the big change will be the end of the Ultimate Universe.

There's speculation that's not Tony in that armor either.

Of course lets not forget that there have been multiple Avengers teams for some time now. Not that it matters. If the book is good, I'll read it.

**Rausch** · 04-28-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull

There's speculation that's not Tony in that armor either.

Of course lets not forget that there have been multiple Avengers teams for some time now. Not that it matters. If the book is good, I'll read it.

That's what I thought.

As dumb as this may sound he looks "younger" on that cover and much more like the Ultimate armor to me.

Reading the "Time Runs Out" storyline there a lot of characters that are going dark, falling apart, or being "ruined" before Secret Wars.

Namor, the Hulk/Banner, Stark, death of Wolverine, Cyclops, Illuminati,etc.

Brock · 04-28-2015, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

eff you, top gun was awesome

The volleyball game was faaaabulous.

DaveNull · 04-28-2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

That's what I thought.

As dumb as this may sound he looks "younger" on that cover and much more like the Ultimate armor to me.

Reading the "Time Runs Out" storyline there a lot of characters that are going dark, falling apart, or being "ruined" before Secret Wars.

Namor, the Hulk/Banner, Stark, death of Wolverine, Cyclops, Illuminati,etc.

The whole Hickman run is both amazing and tough to slog through. I love it.

lcarus · 04-28-2015, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Bull$#it.

Comix companies create new characters all the time. He's not even close to the first gay comix character either. If you want to adjust to the times do just that. Have your next new character be gay/lesbian.

There's no reason to take a guy who was clearly strait and change him for anything but publicity and headlines.

Agreed. This is just kinda dumb. I mean, should it matter if Iceman is gay, straight, or a chronic masturbator? I just wanna see mutants doing mutant stuff. Not picture Iceman giving some dude in a leotard brain freeze. Next they're gonna try to appeal to the feminazis and rename their brand "X-People"

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