This sucks..Divorce. What is the best Online "D" site to use?

[Holladay]

Been married for 24 yrs. 2 kids (18 son and 20 daughter), he is going Ks Nat Guard/KU(Pit St) ROTC route to be an officer, she graduates in 3 yrs, major int'l studies (whatever that is) minor bus minor soc.

Wife is German, met whilst in the Army Frankfurt. Did Desert Storm etc . Left Army as Capt and started my own bus. You look back, the hand writing is on the wall.

To get married, I called the Justice of the Peace in E-town (outside Ft Knox)..what does it take to get married. 30 min, $50. Put me down for 1:00pm next day. Next call was to an attourney...what does it take to get divorced. Uncontested...$200 and 30 min. Done. Married..1992.

She is a firecracker...good and bad. Smart and a Neat Freak. Through the yrs there have been many issues. Won't go into them yet. Asked a client which happens to be a Judge, years ago about keeping the kids (after wife went weirdo and put her hand through a glass window). Judge said no way to get kids???

Years flash forward. Stuff happens...small. We have talked D.

Last couple points. She was away in Germany for a month. She is, as mentioned before, a neat freak. I built a stairway into her loft (major deal), sweep, mop, dust, the whole house...cleaned the toilets. First thing she says when she comes home was "you didn't clean the microwave".

Last night, I asked if we could snuggle for a bit. ( We don't sleep in the same room, I snore) She didn't answer, later went up to her room and she is watching a internet German Soap Opera in bed. I asked which is more important...soap or snuggle. Soap. Last straw.

Thus this post.

So, this type of stuff has happened through years and am done. I have 20 yrs left (aged 52) and don't want to do this anymore...

She doesn't love me, I want to and do...but can't. 2 way street. Thus the D word.

Really don't want it to get nasty, nor her. I found a on-line D site. You fill out the forms and take it to a judge.

Which is the best one?

I wanna have fun my next 20 yrs( sex 3 times thus far this year) , not be bitched at. Kids are gone, thus that issue is mute.

Thoughts?

Sorry, I need to see Jamal have more carries to see if he can carry the rock full time. NOW it is a football thread.

Thanks

[ptlyon]

I'm thinking he needs some double D's

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Why do people get into legal contracts over love with the opposite sex? I don't get it. It just seems like a bad idea. Sure when it works, it works (statiscally low). No further explanation is required. But when marriage doesn't work...oh man...it could wreck the rest of your life.

Full of wrong. First, more than 50% of marriages do NOT end in divorce.

Second, the commitment to a lifetime partnership is important to many, and leads to security, happiness, comfort and reassurance where the marriage is successful.

Third, there are certain legal rights and benefits which come automatically with marriage which are otherwise not available at all, or only come by spending money (and a fair bit of it, depending on circumstances) on lawyers.

Relationships can always go wrong. But if you have kids with someone, whether you're married to them or not, it can "wreck the rest of your life", if you have a negative, pessimistic attitude about it.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

I'm thinking he needs some double D's

A gay threesome?

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Full of wrong. First, more than 50% of marriages do NOT end in divorce.

Second, the commitment to a lifetime partnership is important to many, and leads to security, happiness, comfort and reassurance where the marriage is successful.

Third, there are certain legal rights and benefits which come automatically with marriage which are otherwise not available at all, or only come by spending money (and a fair bit of it, depending on circumstances) on lawyers.

Relationships can always go wrong. But if you have kids with someone, whether you're married to them or not, it can "wreck the rest of your life", if you have a negative, pessimistic attitude about it.

Divorce rates may be on the decline, but marriage has been on the decline since the 1980's. Meaning less people are getting married. Marriage may promote security and happiness, but that dismisses the emotional detriment of getting rejected or ejected from a marriage. AS far as legal rights, there should be no legal rights to getting married. While those rights are probably instilled to promote families in the US, those rights could violate equal protection of those that do not get married. It other words, it's bullshit to give someone special treatment because they get married.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

It other words, it's bullshit to give someone special treatment because they get married.

Yet they do. Taxes.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

A gay threesome?

I wasn't going that way with it, but whatever lights your wick.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Yet they do. Taxes.

I haven't looked, but I'll bet it has never been challenged. Perhaps Amo can tell us. The homosexual population in this country could certainly challenge it, but it appears they have opted to get into the marriage game.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I haven't looked, but I'll bet it has never been challenged. Perhaps Amo can tell us. The homosexual population in this country could certainly challenge it, but it appears they have opted to get into the marriage game.

For instance after my mother died. The next full year after she was gone dad asked me, "How do you single people pay all these taxes?". I told him it's worth it.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Divorce rates may be on the decline, but marriage has been on the decline since the 1980's. Meaning less people are getting married. Marriage may promote security and happiness, but that dismisses the emotional detriment of getting rejected or ejected from a marriage. AS far as legal rights, there should be no legal rights to getting married. While those rights are probably instilled to promote families in the US, those rights could violate equal protection of those that do not get married. It other words, it's bullshit to give someone special treatment because they get married.

Our country has long deemed it beneficial to society to encourage and reward the formation and sustenance of the family unit.
The stable family unit was seen as the foundation upon which to build a successful populace.
Tax incentives for married couples are part of that.
But you knew that.

[bdj23]

When i was doing online dating, all the sites had the same women on them.

Go the free route. No need to waste money on them.

[burt]

My ex and I used a mediator. Was easy. She got all the stuff....I never paid alimony or child support(she had one kid, I had the other) Time went by...I had both the kids. Easy peasy. Lawyers aren't needed unless it gets nasty, and Holladay has one in his pocket if needed. Just be thankful the spark is out on BOTH sides. I was pretty screwed up for numerous years because I dearly loved her. 5-6(?) years later....I wanna get him a case of beer and a hand written thank you note for taking her off my hands!!! Did miss several years with our 2 dogs that she kept...couldn't bear to separate them. Both passed last year. And at 56, there is no lack of fish in the sea...but avoid them if they smell like fish....

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Divorce rates may be on the decline, but marriage has been on the decline since the 1980's. Meaning less people are getting married. Marriage may promote security and happiness, but that dismisses the emotional detriment of getting rejected or ejected from a marriage. AS far as legal rights, there should be no legal rights to getting married. While those rights are probably instilled to promote families in the US, those rights could violate equal protection of those that do not get married. It other words, it's bullshit to give someone special treatment because they get married.

The tax breaks for married people are based on households that are basically a thing of the past now. 30-40 years ago households typically had a stay at home parent and one person that typically made all the money, so the tax breaks were beneficial for the head of the household that was earning money to support multiple people. Nowadays, everyone works yet they still give married couples tax breaks. I agree that it is bullshit to give them tax breaks over single people.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Spott

The tax breaks for married people are based on households that are basically a thing of the past now. 30-40 years ago households typically had a stay at home parent and one person that typically made all the money, so the tax breaks were beneficial for the head of the household that was earning money to support multiple people. Nowadays, everyone works yet they still give married couples tax breaks. I agree that it is bullshit to give them tax breaks over single people.

Nowadays, some married couples get a tax break, but others suffer a penalty. If you have a marriage in the more traditional form, where one person earns the majority of the income, you still get a break. If both make about the same income, it often ends up being worse than if both file as single. Here's an article about it. It has some cool graphs showing the distribution of penalty/bonus for couples in different circumstances. Here's one of them:

[Holladay]

Talked last night. Quite agreeable. We(she) needs to keep up appearances through May. Her parents and nephew are coming to stay awhile. I ok with that.

We need to get answers on her working in Germany. If that is possible, and it should, she moves back to her home and take care of her parents and works. No kids makes it much easier.

I haven't yet gone into details that you all have provided with her yet. The situation is not out of control...just (from her admission) doesn't love me and I have tried hard enough that in the end, don't love her either....best friends = yes.

[Holladay]

OK.

Who is a KS Attorney.

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