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Old 11-02-2012, 07:53 AM   #1
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If Geno and Barkley don't get rave reviews Murray might come out early. I think he is ready, and looks to be the most prototypical QB of the group.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:20 AM   #2
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If Geno and Barkley don't get rave reviews Murray might come out early. I think he is ready, and looks to be the most prototypical QB of the group.
He's not that big so prototypical might be a bit of a stretch.

I think Murray, much like Bray, might as well be dead to us. We will have next year either Matt Barkley or Geno Smith with Tyler Wilson having a slight chance.

It'll be one of those 3.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:31 AM   #3
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:42 AM   #4
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And they traded up to get him.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:35 AM   #5
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Apparently it's a bad year period to pick a player at all according to McShay and Kiper.

Let's just not pick anybody. They might bust.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:42 AM   #6
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:29 AM   #7
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Even the year we suck the worst, we're freakin' doomed to select the worst first ever.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:32 AM   #8
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Even the year we suck the worst, we're freakin' doomed to select the worst first ever.
Know which years 2013's QB class is better than?

2011
2010
2009
2008
2007
2006
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2000

And that's just since the turn of the century.

This is a pretty good class. It is a good year to suck for a QB.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:40 AM   #9
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Know which years 2013's QB class is better than?

2011
2010
2009
2008
2007
2006
2003
2002
2001
2000

And that's just since the turn of the century.

This is a pretty good class. It is a good year to suck for a QB.
Good point but I'd take Matt Stafford over this class any day of the week.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:42 AM   #10
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Good point but I'd take Matt Stafford over this class any day of the week.
I disagree. I'd rather have Geno Smith than Matt Stafford. But I'll take your point into consideration.

Who came after Stafford? Sanchez and Freeman. Two of the slapdickiest slapdicks who ever slapped dicks together.

Barkley and Wilson are both > those two.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:49 AM   #11
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Good point but I'd take Matt Stafford over this class any day of the week.
Hell yeah, no one is even close.

Look, I hope we get one of these guys and I hope he works out. The thing is that I don't see any greatness in these guys. Alot of people feel that way. Don't get mad about it people. Maybe one of them will turn into a good player like Andy Dalton or Christian Ponder? Who knows but, I'm not getting my hopes up.

Calling people who feel this way "homers" is really off the mark. The truth is that those who wish to sell their soul to Geno or whoever are the "homers." You are putting all of your hope into guys that aren't doing what we need them to do on their college team. We need a big time leader at QB. We are going to be losing for quite a while and we need leadership on both sides of the ball more than anything.

At this point, I think the homers are the people who have hope at all. You are setting yourselves up for disappointment imo. Even if there were five good QB prospects there is still only a 30% success rate.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:52 AM   #12
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Hell yeah, no one is even close.

Look, I hope we get one of these guys and I hope he works out. The thing is that I don't see any greatness in these guys. Alot of people feel that way. Don't get mad about it people. Maybe one of them will turn into a good player like Andy Dalton or Christian Ponder? Who knows but, I'm not getting my hopes up.

Calling people who feel this way "homers" is really off the mark. The truth is that those who wish to sell their soul to Geno or whoever are the "homers." You are putting all of your hope into guys that aren't doing what we need them to do on their college team. We need a big time leader at QB. We are going to be losing for quite a while and we need leadership more than anything.

At this point, I think the homers are the people who have hope at all. You are setting yourselves up for disappointment imo. Even with five good QB prospects there is still only a 30% success rate.
Then do yourself a favor and give up.

And then do us a favor and go away.
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Calling people who feel this way "homers" is really off the mark. The truth is that those who wish to sell their soul to Geno or whoever are the "homers." You are putting all of your hope into guys that aren't doing what we need them to do on their college team. We need a big time leader at QB. We are going to be losing for quite a while and we need leadership on both sides of the ball more than anything.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:39 AM   #14
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Good point but I'd take Matt Stafford over this class any day of the week.
Or Luck and RG3

I love this class though.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:45 AM   #15
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Know which years 2013's QB class is better than?

2011
2010
2009
2008
2007
2006
2003
2002
2001
2000

And that's just since the turn of the century.

This is a pretty good class. It is a good year to suck for a QB.
Agreed.

People look to the 2012 class and claim it to be the new normal. I disagree with you a little on the 2011 class, I don't think it was that bad.

There are a bunch of guys in this draft that you can win with. This will actually prove to be a pretty good QB class when all is said and done. Is there an RGIII or Luck at the top of it? Eh, probably not (though I think Smith can be better than RGIII, it will just take him a bit). But there are certainly guys like Wilson that can be successful and Barkley that could actually be excellent in a WCO. Oh, and that's not even getting into guys like Manuel who may be insanely good if he develops (he has more raw talent than Gabbert) and Bray who could be the best of them all...if his terminal douche does stand in his way.

Granted, some of them may not come out, but guys like Smith, Barkley, Wilson and Manuel will be there and that's 4 legitimate starter quality QB prospects.
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