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Old 11-14-2012, 08:33 PM   #1
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Actually, Dane and I have had a pretty civil debate.

I haven't pointed out any manipulation.

I have stated strongly my disagreement, but I respect his opinions enough to keep it civil.
^^This.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:01 PM   #2
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Actually, Dane and I have had a pretty civil debate.

I haven't pointed out any manipulation.

I have stated strongly my disagreement, but I respect his opinions enough to keep it civil.
I should have kept reading the thread, then I could have just said this.

I'm sick and tired of these coalition posters trying to use me as a cosigner...
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:56 PM   #3
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milkman & myself, bosschief & Dave, other posters here have pointed out how you manipulate to make your points. you're a ****ing liar dane. I hate liars. but what the hell, I don't know you other than the bullshit you spew here so don't take it personally. but here in this domain, you lie like a ****ing dog when you want to.
**** you.

Outside of the first month I was here, I have NO PROBLEMS with Dane and even when we disagree, there is usually a mutual respect there. Keep my name out of your mouth.

Go back to the coalition, bitch.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:16 PM   #4
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**** you.

Outside of the first month I was here, I have NO PROBLEMS with Dane and even when we disagree, there is usually a mutual respect there. Keep my name out of your mouth.

Go back to the coalition, bitch.
I said you made good points, but you are an ass and I'll mention you whenever I like.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:23 PM   #5
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Oh, and he apparently respects mine enough to keep it civil on his end.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:31 PM   #6
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Oh, and he apparently respects mine enough to keep it civil on his end.
I'd say that you and I are in agreement roughly 85% of the time and when we do disagree, I certainly respect your opinion. And after chatting in the forum in a civil manner for the better part of 12 years, attacking you or your opinion is unthinkable.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:39 PM   #7
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Clancy Pentegast was never hired to be the defensive coordinator. He was hired to be a position coach while Pioli was still trying to hire Romeo to run the defense.

He was named the defensive coordinator weeks after being under contract in KC and Haley said multiple times during that span that "they" were still looking for a "DC".

It was only after Romeo publicly turned down the job that Clancy was named to the position.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:42 PM   #8
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Clancy Pentegast was never hired to be the defensive coordinator. He was hired to be a position coach while Pioli was still trying to hire Romeo to run the defense.

He was named the defensive coordinator weeks after being under contract in KC and Haley said multiple times during that span that "they" were still looking for a "DC".

It was only after Romeo publicly turned down the job that Clancy was named to the position.
Looking at it all now, it was the first sign that we were standing on the tracks and a train full of hurt was heading our way.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:58 PM   #9
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Clancy Pentegast was never hired to be the defensive coordinator. He was hired to be a position coach while Pioli was still trying to hire Romeo to run the defense.

He was named the defensive coordinator weeks after being under contract in KC and Haley said multiple times during that span that "they" were still looking for a "DC".

It was only after Romeo publicly turned down the job that Clancy was named to the position.
Yeah...Pioli was a giant bag of douche from the get-go.

Haley was ****ed through the drive-thru before this thing even got started.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:23 PM   #10
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Yeah...Pioli was a giant bag of douche from the get-go.

Haley was ****ed through the drive-thru before this thing even got started.
He really was.

1) Pioli traded for Cassel before Haley was hired.

2) Pioli wanted to force Romeo on Haley in 2009 and even after Romeo turned down the job, Pioli didnt want anyone else hired so the door would be open the following year when Romeo was healthy enough to take the job...therefore Clancy was promoted after being hired on to be a position coach.

3) Pioli forced Gailey on Haley.

4) Pioli forced Weis on Haley.

5) Pioli made the Tyson Jackson pick when Haley didnt want any part of it.

6) Pioli shot down the idea of signing Hasselback to back up Cassel during the 2011 offseason.


I would love to see Haley in a NORMAL HC POSITION where he could hire his own staff and have a legit QB to work with.

I would be willing to bet almost anything the guy will excel when he gets his chance and that might come as soon as next year.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:41 PM   #11
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SF had the 13th ranked defense in 2010 (the year before JH got there) and averaged giving up 327 yards per game.

This year, they are 3rd in defense and give up 292 yards per game.

The difference is the upgrades in players and the fact that the offense is extending drives.

Their offense only averaged 313 yards and 19 points per game in 2010 and now average 366 yards and 24 points per game.

They are doing so with largely the same players.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:10 PM   #12
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Harbaugh is what Haleys ceiling would have been.

A guy that is imaginative and innovative as an offensive play caller and is an elite motivator of an entire team.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:15 PM   #13
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Harbaugh is what Haleys ceiling would have been.

A guy that is imaginative and innovative as an offensive play caller and is an elite motivator of an entire team.
yes and the biggest diff is that his GM was an insecure twit that eventually sabotaged his efforts long before he fired Haley. The second diff -- and this was perhaps even steven with the first diff, is that JH was given a football team that could do basic NFL stuff like run the ball, block and sack the QB, which is not what the Chiefs could do when Haley took over.
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aw, I touched a nerve when I called out a "liar"
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