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Old 03-18-2014, 07:35 AM   #1
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So what made the tiny speck that created the universe? Where did it come from? Haha
So what made that god that created the universe? Where did he come from? Haha
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:23 AM   #2
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So what made that god that created the universe? Where did he come from? Haha
The article even points out the obvious "scientists still don't know who kicked the ball".

I would also like to point out I'm playing devils advocate on this, not trying to convince anyone the existance or non-existance of anything.

But when you rally simplify the entire arguement, science says creation happened basically by chance; while religion points more toward a designed /planned event. As far as I know it could be either. The Big Bang theory could have just been a random gas explosion, or a designed gas explosion. the findings mentioned in the OP are not proving / denying the nature to the primal question, "why".
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:59 PM   #5
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The article even points out the obvious "scientists still don't know who kicked the ball".

I would also like to point out I'm playing devils advocate on this, not trying to convince anyone the existance or non-existance of anything.

But when you rally simplify the entire arguement, science says creation happened basically by chance; while religion points more toward a designed /planned event. As far as I know it could be either. The Big Bang theory could have just been a random gas explosion, or a designed gas explosion. the findings mentioned in the OP are not proving / denying the nature to the primal question, "why".
No, Science does not say the universe happened by chance. Science says that we don't have enough information to know how the universe came to be. It's not an "either religion or science" choice regarding the beginning of the universe. The Big Bang theory doesn't actually address the creation of the universe. Because science currently doesn't have the technology to find any evidence of what happened before the universe began expanding. The Big Bang theory only addresses the time frame of several seconds after the universe was the size of a marble, to present time when the universe is measured to be 13 billion light years wide. It makes no claims of what might have happened before the universe began expanding.

The Big Bang(if true) wasn't simply a big explosion. There is no confusing the Big Bang with a random gas explosion. Before that point, there wasn't even empty space.

The findings in the OP were never meant to explain the "Why". The findings were meant to show that one of the major predictions for evidence of the Big Bang has actually been verified, giving more validity to the Big Bang theory as a whole.
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No, Science does not say the universe happened by chance. The Big Bang theory doesn't actually address the creation of the universe. Because science currently doesn't have the technology to find any evidence of what happened before the universe began expanding.
The findings in the OP were never meant to explain the "Why". The findings were meant to show that one of the major predictions for evidence of the Big Bang has actually been verified, giving more validity to the Big Bang theory as a whole.
I'll never know why some see it as an either or.

Why can't the Big Bang be Gods plan? Why can't evolution be Gods plan?

Science is based on fact. Religion is based on faith. They are not competing on the same turf.
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Never understood why science had to be an either or proposition for the existence of god. I believe in evolution, and god, and never felt conflicted. There will most likely never be proof either way, let believers believe, and unbelievers not.
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Never understood why science had to be an either or proposition for the existence of god. I believe in evolution, and god, and never felt conflicted. There will most likely never be proof either way, let believers believe, and unbelievers not.
They don't conflict.

Evolution conflicts with a literal interpretation of the bible, not the idea of god itself.
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They don't conflict.

Evolution conflicts with a literal interpretation of the bible, not the idea of god itself.

The conflict was created by young earth creationists and fundamentalists. They attack science, not the other way around. Science is agnostic.
Science explains the natural world.
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They don't conflict.

Evolution conflicts with a literal interpretation of the bible, not the idea of god itself.
Devils advocate still, not arguing I believe one way or the other. Some people think when you close your eyes for the final time, you either see a light or nothing. I can't speak to which one happens, in my experience the only thing I can control is how many people come to my funeral and if they'll be cheering or crying.

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The first line of the old testament /Judao-Christian-Muslim bible, "In the beginning, god created the heavens and earth". The OP seems to suggest or prove even, that first sentence took longer to read than the actual creation or beginning, of time and space.

This science is following the bible pretty close. And we're not even including any other religions.
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And whoever thinks the universe just goes on forever is an idiot !
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I call bullshit.

And whoever thinks the universe just goes on forever is an idiot !
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