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Old 04-02-2015, 12:49 PM   #1
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I think Erving probably ends up playing center in the NFL. He could play tackle or guard somewhere eventually, but I think he's a center.

I believe in positional value as much as anybody, but at the end of the day, you've got to be pragmatic.

What will make the Chiefs better: Cam Erving, or Kevin Johnson. Not "a center" versus "a corner" on "a hypothetical NFL team." We have known roster realities and available talent to consider.
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:52 PM   #2
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I think Erving probably ends up playing center in the NFL. He could play tackle or guard somewhere eventually, but I think he's a center.

I believe in positional value as much as anybody, but at the end of the day, you've got to be pragmatic.

What will make the Chiefs better: Cam Erving, or Kevin Johnson. Not "a center" versus "a corner" on "a hypothetical NFL team." We have known roster realities and available talent to consider.
Agreed!

People talk about reaching for a player of need, of drafting the best available player, etc... but that's thinking about the draft pick-by-pick. At the end of the (three) days it's about "how much have you improved your team?" You have to look at the collection of players you got and ask yourself "How much did my team improve? What weaknesses do I have that my opponents will try to exploit?"

If you just take BPA every pick and don't think about needs you'll end up drafting 5 damned running backs.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:15 PM   #3
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center just isn't that important of a position in the end of the day... an elite center is going to do very little in improving a team. what combo of players would make the chiefs better?

Richard Sherman, and an average Center like Stefan Wisenski

or Maurkice pouncey, and an average corner like Brandon Carr?

how about

Joe Thomas, and an average guard like geoff schwartz

or

Marshal Yanda and an average tackle like eric fisher(ok maybe fisher isn't average)

Dez Bryant and an old Chris Myers

or Rodney Hudson, and Eddie Royal

Center is one of the least impactful positions in football, and having an elote center isn't going to win you jack.

the draft nevers ends up how its supposed to but the first round pick gives you the best chance possible of finding an elite player, and i don't want our best chance going on a center. i'd much rather try to find an elite tackle, cb, wr, te, really anything but center.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:53 PM   #4
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center just isn't that important of a position in the end of the day... an elite center is going to do very little in improving a team. what combo of players would make the chiefs better?

Center is one of the least impactful positions in football, and having an elote center isn't going to win you jack.

the draft nevers ends up how its supposed to but the first round pick gives you the best chance possible of finding an elite player, and i don't want our best chance going on a center. i'd much rather try to find an elite tackle, cb, wr, te, really anything but center.
Sorry, don't agree. Last year, the Browns started off really good (7-4), were in first place in their division, then had injuries on O and D and it all went to hell (and finished 7-9). But the most important injury was Alex Mack.

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The Browns’ rushing offense dipped from 146.4 rushing yards per game with Mack to 90.5 without him.
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